Episode 57

May 14, 2024

01:04:33

#57 | El Dusty

#57 | El Dusty
Corpus Christi Originals Podcast
#57 | El Dusty

May 14 2024 | 01:04:33

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In this episode we sit down with the one and only El Dusty. Dive into the vibrant world of music with the man who's been igniting the scene. From his roots in Corpus Christi to global acclaim, we explore El Dusty's journey, his influences, and the pulse of his music that resonates far beyond. Tune in for an intimate conversation filled with rhythm, passion, and the essence of Corpus Christi's musical soul.
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[00:00:00] Speaker A: What's going on, y'all? Corpus Christi Originals back at it again. Coming to you live from the Produce Streamlab Studio downtown. Corpus Christi, Texas. Actually in Dusty's spot, who is our guest today. What's going on, Dusty? [00:00:10] Speaker B: What's up, bro? [00:00:11] Speaker A: Welcome to the show, man. [00:00:12] Speaker B: Thank you for having me. Thank you for having me. [00:00:14] Speaker A: How's it feel be on the other side? [00:00:17] Speaker B: Shorter? No, it's good, man. It's good. I'm glad to be here. Happy to be here. [00:00:22] Speaker A: So we got IH5, Wicked Red in the same room. Breaking bread together. [00:00:27] Speaker B: We are, man. Yes, sir. [00:00:28] Speaker A: Only took 30 years. [00:00:29] Speaker B: Yeah, man. You know, it's one of those things. Just a matter of time, you know what I'm saying? [00:00:33] Speaker A: That's what's up, dude. Then that's awesome. I like to hear about. So what do you mean, matter of time? Like it's just gonna happen or. [00:00:38] Speaker B: Well, you know, like when two people have similar visions and goals, I think that, you know, it's only a matter of time before you cross paths again, you know, especially at that age. We're what, like, 1819 years old, you know? [00:00:50] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:00:51] Speaker B: And both of us were in these projects that kind of like, you know, they had some weight, you know what I'm saying? It wasn't like we were just gigging, like, here and there or whatever. So I think, like, especially at that time, to have, like, success, you know, and such a young, like, band, and the way we kind of just threw them both together, you know what I mean? Like, it was just kind of. [00:01:12] Speaker A: So, like, we were trying to get signed, right? [00:01:14] Speaker B: Yeah. I think that's the ultimate goal. Like what? As a. As a. As a person that does music. I mean, I think that's one of the goals, is just like, let's get signed. You know what I'm saying? [00:01:23] Speaker A: Yeah, right. [00:01:24] Speaker B: But. But, you know, I mean, at that time, that was like. That was the goal, you know what I mean? But, you know? [00:01:32] Speaker A: Yeah, that was the goal, definitely, man. And then we had beef and get beef with each other. Right. Which I don't even know why. I just know that, okay, we don't like them, they don't like us. That's where it's at. You know? [00:01:42] Speaker B: I think that it was more so y'all, because we were like, you know, we were Cal Allen dudes and we were just kind of. Whatever. [00:01:50] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:01:50] Speaker B: And. And we. We were used to people kind of, like, hating on us a lot, you know? I mean, we're fucking white boy rappers and shit, you know what I mean? [00:01:57] Speaker A: Well, y'all were good, dude. [00:01:58] Speaker B: And it was good, but. But, you know, we're kind of used to it. But when you guys came along, like, we really didn't even know until, like, later that it was like, oh, shit, they kind of do have beef with us, you know what I mean? It's like, all right, well, I mean, it was just, you know, I don't think it was more like. Now looking back, I feel like it was more kind of just like, you know, like, what is it? Like? Just like, teen angst, you know what I mean? I like, like, nowadays, I really, like, like finding people that do similar things than what I do. You know what I'm saying? I'm more attracted to that. I think as a kid, you're trying to find your individuality and, like, you know, you're trying to do this and that, and then. But now I'm like, well, dude, where are the guys that make kumbia beats? Or where's the sample diggers and stuff like that? You know what I mean? So. [00:02:48] Speaker A: So you're always trying to find somebody to collab with. [00:02:51] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, just. Or learn off of. Or, you know, whatever, man. Just like, you know, just kind of, like, do things in similar veins, you know? [00:02:59] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. Right on, dude. That's awesome. Yeah, it's a lot. I think we were avoiding each other, like you were saying at that time, and I was like, I don't even know why we hate the dudes, but we hate them, you know, I mean, which is dumb. Now we think about. I was actually talking to my. About it. Like, nowadays, they won't even tell you that you hate you. Just kind of. They befriend you, but they hate you under no subtweet. [00:03:16] Speaker B: Yeah, sub to you. Yeah. [00:03:21] Speaker A: Yeah, man. So, yeah, I was researching you a lot, and then I came upon your. Your mother and your father's obituary. [00:03:26] Speaker B: I was like, oh, crap, dude. [00:03:28] Speaker A: Your dad, bro. Oh, my God. Shots. Shout out to your pops. Do for real. Heb truck drivers are still, to this day, respected, bro. [00:03:36] Speaker B: Yeah, they're some of the best on the road, man, and they're. Their whole system, the way it's worked out, is, like, really good for their employees. So I think that's why a lot of those guys are so good, you know what I mean? Because the company is so good to. [00:03:49] Speaker A: Their contests and stuff like that. [00:03:51] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:03:52] Speaker A: That's amazing, man. But even just looking at all the stuff that he did, this dude did this like, he was a Marine Corps. [00:03:58] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:03:59] Speaker A: Family ranch in Ramirez. Yeah, man, all kinds of stuff, bro. [00:04:04] Speaker B: Yeah, he is a. He was a great dude, man. He. He achieved a lot with what he did, and he was also, like, paralyzed from the neck down since he was, like, probably, like, 35 years old, you know? [00:04:15] Speaker A: And you were. You were, like. [00:04:16] Speaker B: I was, like, five when that happened, so. [00:04:19] Speaker A: Yeah. So how did that. How did that affect you? I mean, your mom was taking care of him, right? [00:04:23] Speaker B: Yeah, she became this, like, caregiver, you know? I think I was just so young that I never really, like, understood what was really happening. And my parents were kind of just, like, really good at, like, sheltering away the problems that they were having to us. You know what I'm saying? So I think that that's kind of. That's kind of what we just. It was just normal to me and my little brother, my older brother, you know, of course, he was, like, in 1314, so, you know, naturally, he was, you know, kind of. It affected him a lot more than it affected us, you know? But looking back, you know, I really do. You know, of course, I wish that my dad was up and around and stuff like that, but I am kind of thankful that since he was at home so much, we got to spend so much time together, and, um, he got to teach me so much more about other things in life than, like, throwing the ball and all that type of shit, you know what I mean? But he was a pretty wise dude, man. I mean, he was. He had been through a lot, so. [00:05:23] Speaker A: A lot of the stuff that he taught you, do you find yourself doing that today? [00:05:26] Speaker B: Yeah, man. I mean, just, you know, the. The, like, don't give up kind of mentality and just kind of, like, order to things and things and shit like that, you know? And, like, um, he kind of, like, I I definitely have a lot of his traits. I mean, we do, like, overdo a lot of things or make sure that, like, whenever he was, like, building his home, he made sure that all these things were in place, and it was just, like, super solid and, like, you know, all these weird things. Like, he had a bunker and all this kind of stuff, but, like. But, like, you know, like. And so I think that way as well, like, that's normal to me. So I'm kind of, like, when we're building this place, it's kind, like, all these things, these little details that we had put in place that were kind of, like, do you really need to do that? Well, yeah, I mean, because later on, you know, cables all through the walls and all this kind of stuff, you know, what? I mean? So, yeah, that's dope, man. [00:06:20] Speaker A: Wow, that's awesome. So I always resort to, like, parents. What's going on, y'all? Anthony Diaz. Yeah, he's a marine. Ex Marine Corps. [00:06:30] Speaker B: Yeah, my dad was a marine, man. [00:06:31] Speaker A: Yeah. Hell, yeah, dude. [00:06:33] Speaker B: El Colombiano. That's my homie. [00:06:35] Speaker A: Yeah. What's going on on Facebook? Appreciate you guys joining. We got some people on tick tock as well. Cali Corral. What the hell? Can't read it. Kind of small over there. Yeah, man. Tell him it's Collette. [00:06:49] Speaker B: Dusty recorded me when I was 16. [00:06:54] Speaker A: Nice. Oh, we got simplify. [00:06:58] Speaker B: There we go. Yeah, we are. We're already on. [00:07:03] Speaker A: You can join. [00:07:05] Speaker B: Oh, no, you're good. See, that's how it goes around here. All right. Yeah, it's a worked wheel, you know, but, like, that's the way it works. Like, there's people working. People are doing. They're shooting a commercial outside. They need something. I mean, we just got to keep going. [00:07:18] Speaker A: It's. Yeah, no, you give the opportunity for people to, like, be in a. Be innovative. [00:07:23] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:07:23] Speaker A: And that's what. That's what's cool that you're doing down here. [00:07:26] Speaker B: Yeah, man, I know. Possible. [00:07:28] Speaker A: That's good. Why? Why is that? I mean. [00:07:30] Speaker B: I mean, just, like, I don't know. A lot of people, like, gave me chances when I was young, you know what I mean? And, like, I feel like it's like I need to do these things anyway. If, like, some of these guys that are younger can come in and, like, learn some stuff, and we can both benefit, then, you know, why not? You know what I mean? Like, and so that's kind of how it's been here. Produce has always been kind of like a revolving door of artists and DJ's and producers and stuff like that, and people have come through here that have done a lot of great things, you know? But it's not. It's never, like a, you know, closed door session. You know what I mean? Even when it is, like, how it is right now, you know, it's like, andrea, come in here, or somebody will come in here and make it. Hey, what's up? Or. [00:08:15] Speaker A: Yeah, that's amazing, dude. So, a lot of people get a lot of misconceptions about you regarding that type of stuff, or. [00:08:22] Speaker B: I don't know. I think, like. Like, what do you mean? Like, what does that mean? [00:08:26] Speaker A: There are things that people get wrong about you. [00:08:30] Speaker B: Um, you know, man, I stay pretty sheltered, man. I'm not gonna lie. I. I stay around this neighborhood, like, 80% of the week. You know what I mean? 90% of the week. I mean, Maya will tell you I don't really leave much, and I kind of, like, mind my own business, and I think that's kind of worked in my favor because I. You know, I don't necessarily have, like, a lot of people hating on me and shit like that, of course, you know, and when the mu. When people have different opinions on music and stuff like that, it's like, you know, but I don't really take that to heart because I. You know, I know how that goes, you know? Yeah. So, I don't know. I mean, I. If they do, I don't know about it, you know? And, I mean, I kind of like. [00:09:10] Speaker A: To keep it, like, just talking to you and just you coming in out here, it's like you ain't got time to worry about that stuff. [00:09:16] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, it's just. You know, it's just one of those things, man. [00:09:19] Speaker A: Right on, man. So it's. Speaking of music, we were talking, Maya, now we're talking about. In the last episode. Last episode, we're talking about the Ab Keetania thingy. What's good? What do you think? What do you think about that? [00:09:28] Speaker B: I mean, man, honestly, like, when the vip is right up there up front and ever, and they're all, you know, they paid for those seats, and a lot of them have. Have wine on their tables and they're there with their dates and stuff like that, like, they don't want to get up and dance, you know? So I feel like it was a. It was a logistics error. Like, they should have put that vip behind the dance floor, raised so they could see the artist perfectly and the dance floor could be going crazy. And the artist can be going crazy. You know what I mean? So. And, man, I mean, after so many hits and so many years of doing that stuff and putting up with it, I'd imagine that it gets a little. You know what I mean? Like. I mean, I've been there, you know, where the crowd sucks, you know, and it's just like, dude, it. It's really frustrating. You know what I'm saying? So for you to bite your tongue for so many years, and then, like, you know what? Fuck this. You know what I'm saying? [00:10:24] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:10:25] Speaker B: So I kind of. I mean, it's not that I agree. I agree with him. I do agree with him. I think it was a logistical error. And of course, he could have avoided it by not saying it, but, man, at the same time, like, bro, had a point, man. You know what I mean, bro? It's like. But. But you gotta have. There's two sides to that story, you know? The VIP paid for their seats. They wanted to sit down, and they wanted to chill, and that's great, you know what I mean? But at the same time, it's a concert, man. It's a music show. Like, people want to. The artist is expecting to go out there and kill it, bro. It's ab, bro. That's like, his backyard. You know what I'm saying? Like, of course they were going to dance, and I'm sure that the audience was dancing, you know what I'm saying? Like, other people out there, but just that front row, man, to have that whole front row, like, man, it's frustrating. [00:11:09] Speaker A: Wow. [00:11:10] Speaker B: It's really hard to deal with. And trust me, like, in the back of my mind, I've cussed out a lot of crowds, you know what I'm saying? But I ain't got the balls to say anything, though, you know what I'm saying? But to all you people out there, are you sitting down? You suck. [00:11:29] Speaker A: He brought the cowboys in, too. [00:11:30] Speaker B: I was like, oh, I mean, hey, man. The man was frustrated. The man was frustrated. Yeah, right. [00:11:35] Speaker A: Dude. That's a cool outlook, man. [00:11:37] Speaker B: Yeah, for sure. [00:11:38] Speaker A: Wow. And you, as a dj, you got to read the room. You got to read what's going on, and you got. So you can't just have a mix and just put boom boom down. We're done. [00:11:46] Speaker B: Yeah, right. [00:11:47] Speaker A: So what's yours? Mine, I would talk about. So, what's your go to when djing? [00:11:52] Speaker B: Um, well, I, like, you know, when my whole time djing growing up was like, I'm the dj at the club, and I play for 4 hours or, like, whatever, right? And so I used to, like, be really open format that. That kind of where I play, like, all kinds of different things. So, like, I was lucky. Lucky enough to play at places where they would kind of, like, let me program my own style or whatever, and I'd kind of, like, go by, you know, it's early. It's 09:00. I'm not gonna come out here and kill it, you know what I'm saying? So, like, play some reggae shit or play some. Some early kumbia or some, like, weird stuff, hip hop. And then, you know, kind of, like, read the room, you know what I mean? Like, exactly what you're saying. Like, just kind of play to the crowd and that by 12:00, everybody's, like, already getting drunk. By 01:00 everybody's slammed, so you can play whatever you want and then, like, one to two, you just kind of, like, kill it and then. You know what I mean? But. But doing that for so many years, like, gave me an outlook as a. Where now when I do it for an hour, like, at my show, it's just kind of, like, flawless. I don't have to think about it. [00:13:01] Speaker A: Anymore, you know, corpse Christian horror Club says, how does anyone sit down during an eldesty set? [00:13:08] Speaker B: Well, if their vip's right in front of me, I might feel it. [00:13:17] Speaker A: Yeah, that's what's up, man. So you've obviously been doing it for a long time. And then. So you were with universal, then you. I guess you didn't sign another contract to continue on. Yeah, so you. [00:13:28] Speaker B: I got released. Released, yeah, yeah, I got my release book. Because what happens is I fulfilled my contract. I did all the songs and I did all the singles and all my. My things, and then they were going to re sign me because our contract was going to be expired, you know, like, it's like. I mean, really, like, a lot of people don't finish their contracts, but if you sign this crazy ass contract that, like, you'll never finish. You know what I mean? But the one that I had wasn't necessarily, like, the best for both parties. None of us were. It was. It was nobody that was going to win. It was just a thing that was just going to happen. And it was kind of good for me in a way, but in a way, it was kind of like, you know what I'm saying? Like, where is all this at? You know what I'm saying? [00:14:10] Speaker A: But kind of like. So what do you mean? So you just decided, like, no more? [00:14:14] Speaker B: Well, I just didn't think that the offer was like, okay, like. Like. Cause, dude, being signed, like, it's a lot, like, you gotta run every single thing through, like, a bunch of people. And I'm kind of, like an independent dude. And I'm down here in corpus where all my peers and all my workers were in LA and, like, in Miami. And so I kind of work at my own pace, but also, like, I was. I wanted to release stuff a lot, you know, and it would have to go through this, like, chain of command that was just like, well, this guy hasn't heard it, and this guy doesn't think this, and this guy thinks that. And it's just like, man, I'm tired of this shit. You know what I mean? And, like. And so whenever they asked to re sign me, I just said the deal was cool, the money was fine, whatever. But it just didn't make enough sense for me to be like, you know what? Let me just go through this all over again for the next ten years. You know what I'm saying? So it was like. It was a very. It was a very big decision for me because it, like, you know, it. Being signed, like, changed my life, you know? But. But also, you know what I mean? Like, it's, you know, I'm not 19 years old anymore or whatever. You know what I'm saying? [00:15:17] Speaker A: When you're done, you're done. [00:15:19] Speaker B: I was done with that. I definitely ain't done. I'm. I feel busier than ever. But the. But, you know, the. I was done with that shit. You know what I'm saying? [00:15:29] Speaker A: So you're. So you're now basically taking on the role that everybody had there yourself. [00:15:33] Speaker B: Yes. [00:15:33] Speaker A: Indie artist. [00:15:34] Speaker B: Yes. And that role is not easy, but. But, I mean, you know, like, it. At least it's at my own pace. [00:15:42] Speaker A: That's cool. So you're not only doing that. You got this right here, what we're doing, and this awesome studio, man. And you have Purdue studios. You got the bar coming out. [00:15:50] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:15:51] Speaker A: Right. You got all that stuff that. That's just part of all the stuff that you're doing. [00:15:55] Speaker B: Well, I mean, that takes up a. You know, the. Right now, the. Okay, hi fi is a bar that we're opening next door, but it. That pretty much takes all my time right now. And fighting bar, but no, like, that takes up a lot of time. You know, there's a lot of. We're building it, and we're kind of like. You know, I like to, like, wire stuff myself and do shit myself sometimes. And not the. Not the hard shit, you know, but, like this. The fun stuff, the turntables and all that. Yeah, right, but. But, you know, it's just taking up a lot of time. But it's about to open next Thursday. We're gonna soft open. Or next Friday. I'm sorry. We're gonna soft open, and it should be good, man. I want to see what kind of people are gonna show up over here, because it's like a, you know, DJ Lounge. [00:16:47] Speaker A: You know, there was an older lady that was walking by. She was talking about it. [00:16:51] Speaker B: Yeah, right on. [00:16:52] Speaker A: Yeah, definitely. She. I think she lives around here. Walks her dog or whatever. She's like, I can't wait till it opens. [00:16:56] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:16:56] Speaker A: Yeah, dude, it was cool. [00:16:57] Speaker B: Right on. See, that's what I'm saying. Like, you don't know what? Who the regulars are gonna be like, you know, like, what's that gonna be. [00:17:03] Speaker A: Like what she was saying? She was like, yeah, it seems like a thing where you could do after you get off work, you come and chill. [00:17:08] Speaker B: That's exactly the mind frame, bro. [00:17:11] Speaker A: Is that because you're downtown? I mean. [00:17:12] Speaker B: I mean, kind of like, if you. I feel like, you know, like, I don't go to work nine to five every day, but I feel, like, in the. In my brain where it's like, if I had a nine to five, I would go to work at nine and, like, get out at nine and then, like. Or five and then be like, you know what? I want to hit the bar. And it's downtown. Here's the bar. Like, have a drink and then go home and, you know. [00:17:31] Speaker A: So when you have these ideas, that makes me. I'm sorry, man. I get really into the conversation that makes me think. So when you have these ideas before you start it, you obviously have this. A thought process before you bring it out, right? So you don't just necessarily. Okay, I got this day idea. Let's do it. [00:17:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:17:48] Speaker A: Yeah. You think it through, right? Yeah. [00:17:50] Speaker B: Yeah, man, we've had so many different things that we're like, oh, we're gonna do this, but it's just, you know, fizzles out. But, like, I like to, like, write things down or, like, I have all these glass, like, and I just started writing on them all the time. And we would just put goals, like, throughout, write the whole year out of, like, things we can do. And then it kind of just, like, gives you kind of, like, a purpose of, like, where, you know, the rollout and the order of things that are going to happen, you know what I'm saying? And that kind of. I kind of take that, like, music kind of roll out technique, and I apply it to, like, different things, like the bar. Like, yo, we're gonna build the bar. We're gonna build hype. We're gonna do all this kind of stuff. And. And that's, you know, and then you got the drop date, you know what I mean? And so you put it out and you hope for the best. [00:18:42] Speaker A: So you obviously got a team of people. [00:18:44] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah. [00:18:45] Speaker A: How do you. How do you find yourself? I guess, you know, coming upon that. [00:18:49] Speaker B: I think, like, I mean, just word of mouth, you know, like, and the scene in corpus is kind of. I mean, it's very big now, but it was. It's been smaller, and I've grown with the scene as well. But, like, the art scene is like. It's like, you know, everybody kind of knows each other or everybody's, like, heard of somebody or whatever, but eventually everybody kind of walks in here and just to at least, like, figure, like, to do some things or record something or whatever, or just meet up and just talk and chop it up, you know? Like, I'm. I love doing that. But the, you know, like, Chris. I found Chris. I heard about him, like, doing his, like, his productions, like, yikes and stuff like that, and I started talking to him, and I felt like this guy ever, like, really has a similar outlook on things. And I would invite him over. I'd be like, hey, if you want to come to produce and just kind of, you know, work out of here for, you know what I mean? Just come through or whatever. And so we started talking about stuff, and then I saw that he was a really good, like, producer as far as, like, he could organize things and follow through with them logistically. He was, like, good at, like, arranging things because that's what he was doing with his sets, like, directing and producing his own. His own sets. And I saw his stuff, and I thought it was really tight, you know? So I invited him to over. Now he's running the bodega. He's basically the manager of produce. You know, he introduced me to Maya, and, like, all their friends are just kind of, like. It's exactly the way me and my friends were, you know, 15, 10, 15 years ago, where we were just young and, like, trying to do stuff and just trying to make it happen. We didn't, you know, we built produce. We didn't have, like, a produce. You know what I mean? But, like, I just want it to be kind of like, this isn't a closed door. It's not just, like, a private place, but also, like, you can come and, like, learn and work, and, like, we can all, like, kind of, like, make money. You know what I'm saying? [00:20:50] Speaker A: I was talking to him earlier. He was working here. Well, kind of like, freelancing. And then you hired him, and then he was trying to figure out why you didn't ask him to work, because you were looking for somebody or whatever. [00:21:00] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:21:01] Speaker A: And he was like, I don't know why, but I just mentioned to him. Oh, you mentioned that he was too busy or whatever. [00:21:05] Speaker B: Yeah, I. You know, I like to. I don't like to, like, delegate too much to too many people. Like, if we have enough, if we have people, then I like to, like, say, hey, look, let this person do this. Let this person rest while this person's doing this. You know what I'm saying? [00:21:19] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:21:19] Speaker B: And I don't want to, you know, I know Chris is able to, like, do stuff, a lot of different shit, but I do think that, like, everybody needs a little time to, like, relax, you know? So he's got a whole lot on his plate, dude. Like, he's going to school. He's doing all kinds of stuff. He's got a lot. [00:21:38] Speaker A: Man, that's cool of you to help to see that in your. Your workers, man. That's awesome. Hi. Bike right down the street. What's up? Will you be creating your own? Yeah. Award show. [00:21:51] Speaker B: Maybe. [00:21:54] Speaker A: Bestie continues to build corpus Christi. Yeah, bro. What's up? So what. I mean, you've been building down here for a while, right? [00:22:01] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:22:01] Speaker A: I mean, what's. I mean, what. Why? Like, what's. What's going on? [00:22:05] Speaker B: Well, I've always worked downtown. Well, I used to have a studio at new aces lofts. Back before it was nueces lofts. It was called the Nueces building, but me and a couple friends, like, had our. We had rented an office, and it had a bunch of different little rooms in it, and we all kind of, like, built studios in there, and we would hang out and, like, you know, a bunch of people would come through there all the time, and. And it was just cool, you know what I mean? Like, and it was kind of, like, produce, but it was, like, way smaller, and the scene was. Was way different, but it was back whenever, like, stingers and all that stuff was around, so, like, downtown would get, like, crazy on the weekends, but during the week, it was, like, super dead, and then it just. Everything kind of died, and we found, like, we moved it. We stayed in oasis loss for a long time, and then I found, like, I stopped working down here for a couple of years, and then I came back in 2008 or 2009 with what we found produce, and we started renting it, and then eventually, you know, buying the building and stuff like that, so. But how do you feel about that? Good, man. I like. I like real estate. I like that game, man. You know, you. When I was younger and my vision wasn't as. As broad, I used to just be like, man, I'm just gonna end up being some real estate guy, and, like, now I'm like, I want to be a real estate, you know? [00:23:34] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:23:35] Speaker B: Yeah, man. We got partners in the building next door. I own the building behind it, the. The fault building, and it's me and my brothers, you know, we're a team. We're a partnership, and I'm kind of like the dude who manages all of our properties and all of our things, so it's pretty cool, you know? [00:23:56] Speaker A: That's something you learned from your dad? [00:23:57] Speaker B: Probably, yeah. My dad was one of those ones that could just, like, see something and know that it had, like, a value later on, you know, he. When he got hurt, he had, you know, a little settlement or whatever, and then he went out and bought all this land. And one of those pieces of land was, like, some acres in Cal Allen where it's, like, up against Hazel Bazemore, which is like a national park. And then on the other side, it's like the high school. [00:24:25] Speaker A: Wow. [00:24:25] Speaker B: So, like, he'll never have neighbors, you know what I'm saying? And it's just like, dude, how did you think about this shit? [00:24:31] Speaker A: Yeah, dope, man. That's awesome, bro. Yeah, so, wow. That's crazy. So do you think about your dad often, man? [00:24:37] Speaker B: All the time, man. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That's my pops, man. He was like, you know, I mean, dude, like, we were really tight, you know, he was like, especially, you know, my mom passed away in 2013, and then he. He lived till 2017. And during that time, I would just spend a lot of time with him, and he became, like a homie. You know what I mean? Like, he really was like a human at that point, you know? Like, I really got to get to know him, you know what I'm saying? It wasn't like the parent filter was off, you know, he recognized me as a man, and it was just like, it was cool to spend those last couple years with them like that. [00:25:14] Speaker A: You mentioned the ranch. I was talking with my uncle Robert, and he went to. He would go hunting with Matt. Uncle Matt, okay, the ranch. [00:25:21] Speaker B: Oh, shit. [00:25:22] Speaker A: I was like, hey, uncle Robert. [00:25:23] Speaker B: What? [00:25:23] Speaker A: I asked Dusty. He saw it shout out to him. [00:25:26] Speaker B: Yeah, man, a lot of those people have been out there for years, and there's some hunters out there that we have that are, you know, to take good care of it, and it's a badass ranch, man. It's fun. [00:25:37] Speaker A: That's awesome. These two go hunting. Do you hunt? [00:25:39] Speaker B: I don't hunt. I like to go out there and chill and I know how to hunt. When I was young, my dad, like, and my uncles, like, I did the whole thing, man. I skinned plenty of javelinas and plenty of deer and rabbits and all kinds of shit. And I've ate. I've skinned it and I've killed it and I've eaten it. You know what I mean, but, like, I'm a changed man. You know, I'm a Kalalcap by heart, but I'm a. I'm a. I'm a change man, you know, I don't do that no more, but, you know, like, I learned how to do a lot of things growing up from my. From my pops, like that, you know, growing up, we go to the ranch every weekend pretty much, and go fill feeders and, you know, do the whole thing. We. And just, like, you know, just got to learn all that lifestyle. He taught us about guns, like, when I was really little. Yeah, he had to handle them, how to take them apart, clean them. Like, I'm a great shot, you know, and I'm saying, like, so it's cool. [00:26:38] Speaker A: You know, he was like some kind of shooter in the marine Corps, something like that. [00:26:42] Speaker B: Well, I mean, he was just. I don't know if he wasn't, like a sniper or nothing, like, what do. [00:26:46] Speaker A: You say today, seeing that, what you're doing all this? [00:26:50] Speaker B: I think he'd be proud, man. I mean, he. Me and him worked together a lot when he was alive. Like, he started, you know, he. He still had, like, business, you know, and so we would. I would help him with a lot of things. And, I mean, we always had plans of, like, doing stuff, you know, getting these old buildings and doing things with them and stuff like that. And so I think that he would. He would. He would dig it. He used to come out here and roll around and check it out, and this is a. This is really cool, you know, and my mom did. My mom and dad both saw produce. Not the way it's fixed up now, but, like, you know, they both. We had, you know, my dad. Me and my dad, like, owned the building before he passed away, and. And so, you know, he's been here and all that, but he never got to see it fixed up like this, but I'm sure he'd be. [00:27:35] Speaker A: Anthony Diaz. All marines are grunts. First. [00:27:38] Speaker B: His. He was. That was definitely his. His name. Ex grunt. That's it. [00:27:43] Speaker A: It's awesome. Yeah. Anthony Diaz. He's a podcaster also. Which, man, it's. So I. So how do you. When I first, like, shout out, I shot you a message, hey, I want to do the book these days for the podcast. [00:27:52] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:27:53] Speaker A: How'd you feel about that? [00:27:53] Speaker B: I was cool. I thought it was awesome, man. I. You know, I've been trying to get people in here to kind of, like, you know, we did our own podcast, dusty crates, for a long time, and really at first it was kind of like, well, let's. Let's get together and do a production. Okay, so now let's, you know, let's. Let's try to get people to come and record podcasts here. I didn't want it necessarily to be like, this is the dusty crate set. It's just like, this is a produce streamlab set, and you can do whatever. You can have it like this or you can pull down the green screen and kind of do whatever. But I wanted it to be a podcast room where people could feel comfortable and like, if a DJ wanted to come and do a DJ set, we got a DJ set. [00:28:31] Speaker A: Nice. [00:28:31] Speaker B: Also, it's rigged up to where we can just have a regular podcast and, you know, you guys come in here and just record it and pump it out, you know, and where it's easy enough to do. So that, that was kind of like the reason to sort of like, do dusty crates. But when you asked, I was just like, let's do it. That's cool. It's cool as hell. Hell yeah. [00:28:51] Speaker A: So did, so you knew podcasts were going to be a good thing. Like, people were going to want to do that. [00:28:56] Speaker B: Well, a lot of people had asked me if they could record podcasts here, like, in the studio, you know, like, hey, man, can we record audio version? Yeah, the audio version. But I was like, dude, like, you know, I've naturally, I need a place to practice. I also, you know, wanted to do podcasting and wanted to get into that kind of stuff and, and, and st. And then, you know, COVID came and all that kind of shit. So it was like, oh, man, we can like, reinvent the wheel now, you know? Wow, I want to. I eventually, well, if I, you know, like whenever I stop touring and stuff like that, which is like, you know, it's very tiring, like just being here, kind of like being able to, like, you know, do my own thing, express myself or practice or dj online and things like that. Those are, like, important to me. So I think that, like, having a place like this is like, it's like a dream, you know what I'm saying? [00:29:44] Speaker A: Speaking of touring, man, how does that. How does it have an effect on your. On your mental health, physical health, and how do you find yourself, I guess dealing with it, you know, or working on it, you know what I mean? [00:29:56] Speaker B: Well, it definitely affects me, you know, I'm getting older and like, you know, but I was. When I was younger, I was able to just like, be on the road seven days a week, and it wouldn't do anything. We could drive wherever, wherever. But now, you know, it's definitely caught up and, you know, it's like a. But it's also, like a big pressure thing, you know what I'm saying? Like, you got expectations to, like, play these type of shows and, like, play this many shows, you know what I'm saying? Like, I've gone years where it's like, I had a show, like, every single weekend, multiple times, and. And it's just like, you know, I forget that, like, the average dude doesn't really do that. You know what I'm saying? Like, so, so, like, I'm grateful for, like, the. The things that I've got to experience, you know? And, I mean, like, I've already done a lot of that shit. I'm kind of like, all right, now, how can I make as much money but from here and not have to, like, go? I do, like, traveling, and I do love to be on tour. I love doing shows. Like, I'm doing shows this weekend and. And all, you know, they're starting to pile up, like, here over the summer. But, you know, if, you know, I ain't gonna lie, if I could just tour in Texas and I could be good, I would be. That would be amazing. I don't think I'll ever move to LA, but I definitely work out there a lot, and I wouldn't mind having a place out there just to. Just to go and work, you know, for weeks at a time. And I still like going out. I love La, man. I love la, like, a lot. But I just, you know, I have so much going on here and, like, you know, I love, like, the things that we built and stuff like that. But don't get me wrong, I get. I definitely go get stir crazy, but luckily, you know, I get to travel and see other, other spots and then come. What's your favorite city to dj, man? Honestly, Chicago is one of the best cities to dj at because there's a lot, you know, what I do for that. Cumbia and EDM and shit like that. It's kind of like house music began in Chicago, you know what I'm saying? And so I don't know what it is about it, but the people there, like, really respond to music of all kinds. It's not like whenever they go to see you, they expect you to play this or whatever. You can read the crowd and go with the crowd and they, you know, you don't, you don't know where you're gonna end up, but they know about dance music. Out there, and they know how to dance to it and know how to, like, be in a place where that's. They're gonna play nothing but dance music, you know, amazing. And so they. I think that open mindness of, like, having house as, like, a part of the lifestyle since you're a born. You know what I mean? Like, it's just. It's just cooler. So they just accept a lot more different things over there. I love playing in San Antonio. I love playing in Houston. I love playing in LA, you know, everywhere, man. I mean, I couldn't really tell you. I have, like, a favorite spot to play, but I love Chicago is definitely, like, dope as fuck. So, yeah, we got Gabriel and then Corpus, man. I mean, corpus is the shit, you know, you have to mention. I have to mention corpus? Yes, for sure. But, like, you know, like, hey, man, sometimes the crowd don't want to see me. No, I'm just joking. No, no, we. Corpus is crazy because you forget how big it is. Like. Like, you know, it's like everybody thinks it's, like, a small town. It's a small town. It is a small city. But, like, you know, there's times when, like, you get so caught up in, like, your own shit, like, you forget that, how big it is. Like, I. I played, like, over on the south side one time, and this dude, you know, I drop music, like, every couple of months or now every month. But he was just like, hey, man, you know, he's like, I haven't heard any. Like, you haven't put out music in a long time. And I was like, damn. I was like, actually, I just dropped something last week. I didn't say that. You know what I mean? But I was in the marketing. But see, I'm lacking in marketing, bro. But. But the south side, it's like a whole other world. You know what I mean? Like, they don't know about us. People down here in downtown, in the. [00:34:03] Speaker A: Trenches, which he be do you shop at, bro? [00:34:07] Speaker B: I go to Heb on Roberts, Bob, you know, like Robert and Alameda. Yeah, the Gucci bee. We got the best wines and cheeses. We'll take on the super heb any to anytime, any place. [00:34:24] Speaker A: But if you want good mexican spices, you go to port and Tarleton. [00:34:28] Speaker B: You gotta get. Yeah, you gotta go to port and Tarleton. You know, the Heb on Robert is kind of like that middle ground of, like, the west side and. And the east side. You know what I mean? So it's like, all right. [00:34:42] Speaker A: Yeah. That's what's up, man. Wow, man, you mentioned. So Anthony Diaz was saying that Chicago was the birthplace of jazz, urban blues and modern jazz. So when you're djing there, you do. You do strictly the cumbia stuff and then somehow you end up liking stuff that's not cumbia. [00:34:57] Speaker B: Well, yeah, but there's a lot of Mexicans there, you know what I'm saying? So, like, playing cumbia full set is like, okay. But the last time I played there, I did go into, like, a lot of, like, house music just because I felt like it was appropriate, you know? [00:35:12] Speaker A: Yeah, right, right. [00:35:12] Speaker B: And. And they dug it, you know, and, like, and like. And then I go back into Goombia or play songs that sample cumbia and with house or whatever. But, like, yeah, like, they. The responses are always cool. [00:35:24] Speaker A: Yeah, that's awesome, man. So you. So you're trying to drop. You drop on every month a track every month? Are you trying to drop it more or do you feel like you have to drop every. How do you approach that? [00:35:35] Speaker B: Well, I've been sitting on so much music for so long that it's kind of like, all right, these songs I have to get out, like, right now. So, like, that's what I kind of did, is I scheduled twelve songs to be released every month. But then I've got songs that are, like, my album or, like, my ep or, like, songs that I'm, like, really want to work and, like, focus on, like, with maybe a video or something like that. Those are songs that I also have that are scheduled throughout the year. But they, like, I'll still drop that id and then that'll drop, and then I'll still drop us. I'll drop a single or a video or whatever, and not. Maybe not to the next song, to that song. You know what I'm saying? So that's kind of my plan for the next year, is just like, drop a song for every month and then in between there sprinkles some singles and maybe an album or whatever. I mean, I always say that I'm working on an album, but it's just kind of like working on tracks that are similar, you know, I'm saying. [00:36:29] Speaker A: Yeah, so it's. It's mostly just. Just to get it out because you have music and not some more. [00:36:35] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, I hate sitting on stuff, you know, for so long. And, like, me as a beat maker, it's natural for me to, like, stack up on beats and then shop them, you know? So, like, that's always been my approach is like, let me make a whole bunch of beats, and then I'll see if people, you know, can. [00:36:50] Speaker A: Okay, shop. [00:36:51] Speaker B: Either shop them to people to. For them to use or. Or for me to use, you know, and for me to get them to do vocals on my song or, you know, collaborate on the beat or whatever. [00:37:00] Speaker A: Yeah. So it's more. More for. Well, I guess it's for both. [00:37:03] Speaker B: Like, you're saying it's like a library, you know? I'm saying, like a locker full of goodies. Yeah, open it up. And here's, like, 50 beats. What kind of beat do you looking for? What kind do you want? [00:37:13] Speaker A: Like, that dude from coming to America. [00:37:15] Speaker B: Yeah. He's like, what's some tube rush? Got some real fly dental hygiene products. [00:37:20] Speaker A: Yeah, man, that's awesome. So you're trying to figure out who pink plantain is on? Uh. [00:37:24] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, we. [00:37:25] Speaker A: That's me, bro. [00:37:26] Speaker B: No, I was like, wait a minute. All of a sudden, I, like, really got. I was like, wait a minute. The mystery unfolds. [00:37:41] Speaker A: It's funny, bro. Yeah, your podcast was cool, man. I was watching your. I think Johnny Hotcakes was the one. I watched, like, one and a half times. [00:37:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:37:48] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:37:49] Speaker B: Right on. [00:37:49] Speaker A: Yeah, cuz, y'all. Yeah. [00:37:51] Speaker B: Yeah. Dude, I've known that guy forever, man. We go by way back 19, probably like 96, 95. We met in Cal Allen. You know, he was sort of an outcast punk rock dude, and I was kind of just like, this weird hip hop guy. [00:38:08] Speaker A: Yeah, no, he was saying. Oh, you. You said. He was mentioning you doing graffiti, and you said you were like, I introduced it to Cal Allen. [00:38:17] Speaker B: Well, my brother did, but, yeah, yeah, definitely. My family brought a lot of bad stuff to Cal Allen. I'm just joking. But, yeah, I definitely got busted for doing graffiti a couple of times at school and, you know, there and five points a bunch of times. So I hadn't, you know. [00:38:39] Speaker A: So how do you like the way the dreads are coming out? [00:38:41] Speaker B: They're good, man. Actually, I might cut them off tonight. That's funny that you ask. [00:38:47] Speaker A: Yeah, seriously. [00:38:47] Speaker B: Wow. Yeah, man. You know, every summer, I'm like, all right, why do I have these? You know what I mean? So who knows what. What the future holds? But, yeah, I get antsy and, like, I'll grow them out. I've had them. This is, like, my second or third time, you know, I'll grow them out. And then, like, I'm like, all right, I want to cut them off, and then I cut them off, and then, like, you know, I grow them out again. Like, have them for a couple years, and it's just like, all right, that's enough. Yeah, but I don't know. I just kind of want to change things up. I think, like, with this next album, I'm going to, like, change up a couple of things. Like a little reaction, rebrand, you know what I mean? I think have my hair has a lot to do with it. Seriously, you become that person, you know, it's like, okay, I'm the guy with dreads, like, everywhere I go, you know? And it's kind of like, I don't know. I think I'm over it. [00:39:32] Speaker A: That's awesome, man. Yeah. So thoughts on the corpus scene? I think we got. Did we touch on that? What are. [00:39:38] Speaker B: Your corpus scene is crazy, man. That it's always had, like, a really nice music scene. They really. People stick together, you know, we experienced it ourselves, you know, like, we played every venue and every show and every opened up for every band and all those kinds of things. It's really cool, you know? And now that people are starting to be able to, like, run their own businesses online and stuff like that, like, it's really growing. And a lot of these people have their own studios or they produce for people out of town, and, like, it's just great. You know what I mean? Like, there's so many resources online that, like, dumb not to use. And I think that a lot of people in corpus have caught up there. These young guys are, like, really smart, getting. Getting big on TikTok and all this kind of stuff. And it's just like, I mean, you know, it's just a matter of time, you know? [00:40:28] Speaker A: So what advice would you give emerging artists who are navigating the music industry? [00:40:34] Speaker B: Well, I say this quite a bit, but I said. I've said, like, don't get married to the beat, right? That means, like, what that means is, like, don't sit on shit forever. Like, just get it out because your next beat is gonna be way better than this beat that you just made, you know what I'm saying? And put things out. Like, get that stuff out of your hard drive. And also just like, don't, like, don't get, like, in that demo mode where it's like, oh, here's the demo. And you just like, that's like, it's called, like, demo itis or something like that, where it's like, you keep hearing the demo, and then when the engineer gives you the mix and master version and you're like, I don't like this. And it's like, well, do you listen to the demo, like 100 million times because you couldn't stop listening to your own voice. [00:41:21] Speaker A: Crazy. [00:41:22] Speaker B: You know what I mean? [00:41:23] Speaker A: So keep putting out music. That's what you're saying? [00:41:24] Speaker B: Keep putting out music? Yeah. Don't get married to the beat. Just like it's it. [00:41:28] Speaker A: What do you think about that, Maya? You're over there chuckling. [00:41:31] Speaker B: It's real. I've seen Maya's hard drive. There's a lot of fucking songs in there that need to be out, bro. [00:41:35] Speaker A: What's going on? [00:41:37] Speaker B: All kinds of genres too. [00:41:39] Speaker A: Wow. [00:41:40] Speaker B: Yes. [00:41:41] Speaker A: That's a release. [00:41:41] Speaker B: The Kraken. Exactly. Yes. [00:41:43] Speaker A: Kraken. [00:41:44] Speaker B: J Fab. [00:41:45] Speaker A: Wow. So, so this type of advice is. Yeah, shout out to JDJ fab. Do you have. Do you have, I guess a favorite dj or is that a bad question? Ask. [00:41:55] Speaker B: Nah, man. I love all music. I love all kinds of dj's. I think my favorite dj producer is Armin Van Helden. He's a house dj. He's like a remix, sampled, chop DJ that. Like, he takes like a hip hop approach to, like, dance music. And I like to say that that's what I do as well, you know? But his songs are just sick, you know, he's. He's one. He's like, guy from New York, you know? And I mean, like, he's from here. I think he's like from another country, but I think he's from. I think it's a us guy. But he, like, he released a song. He released an album back in the day. It was like all hip hop songs, all hip hop, chopped up samples. But then, like, everything he was famous for, it was like a house song, you know what I mean? [00:42:43] Speaker A: So the advice that you're giving the artists, like, it's for them, like, to succeed as a musician in the music industry or like, cuz. Cuz most of them are trying to get signed, like we were talking earlier, right? Or make it or whatever. Is that the type? [00:42:56] Speaker B: I mean, if you're trying to get signed and I mean, the. The only way to get signed and the only way to get anywhere in the music industry is to put shit out, you know, no or no, like, fan is gonna hear it if it's not in on Spotify, right. You know what I'm saying? So put it out. You know, that's the only thing I can say. I mean, and I mean, if you try and if you want advice on how to get signed and all that stuff, you can subscribe to my onlyfans. [00:43:22] Speaker A: And I tell you how to get. [00:43:29] Speaker B: A Grammy. [00:43:31] Speaker A: So is. So getting signed, is it all. Is it everything that you thought it would be? [00:43:36] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, yeah, man, it. You know, my outlook on life is very optimistic. You know what I'm saying? I'm very proud of the things that I've achieved, and I'm also, like. I'm also, like, grateful, you know, for the little things, you know what I'm saying? So doing something like getting signed and being in some of those rooms and doing those things, I'm, like, very grateful. A lot of people would have a sour taste in their mouth, I'm sure. I'm just not that guy. You know? It's like, okay, like, you know, my deal is over. I got into it expecting to get fucked. The fact that I didn't, and I got fucked a little bit, but you know what I'm saying? Like, the fact that I didn't was, like, amazing. You know what I'm saying? So at least I got to learn a bunch of shit, you know? But, you know, I'm grateful for the things that I've done. Being signed was, like, a very good life changing experience. I was like, there's things that I did that I would have never been able to do, not being signed. [00:44:35] Speaker A: Wow. So, like, I had. So can everybody get signed? Like, can everybody get signed? [00:44:41] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:44:42] Speaker A: Okay. [00:44:42] Speaker B: I mean, if I can get signed, anybody can get. Okay. Yeah, there's. I'm not no part of. No, like, illuminati or anything like that. Like, I wasn't born into shit. You know what I mean? Like. [00:44:54] Speaker A: We have some speculators here, but. [00:44:58] Speaker B: You know what I mean? Like, I got signed. Like, what. The way it happened was we put a song out. I made a beat right here, like, and there was a table right here, and I made this beat on my NPC. It was called Que Le Paso? It was the first time I ever made a house song, and it was a chopped up sample on the NPC. I made a house beat on the NPC. And then I from there, I put it into my computer and fucked with it or whatever. But, like, from the. From the time that it was that I made it to the time that it was out was probably, you know, 20 days, you know what I mean? And so it came out, and then me and my, like, it started getting traction because it was a good song, and I got, like, on a compilation or whatever, but then we made a video to it, and the video, like, blew up on YouTube. This is, like, early YouTube. Like, I don't even think Spotify was around. I don't even know, like. But this is in, like, 2000, like. [00:45:52] Speaker A: Wild west days of YouTube. [00:45:53] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. And so it went. It started going, like, that morning, my phone was, like, blowing up, my emails. Everything was just like, yo, this song is going crazy. And so then I got. I got signed by this guy Daniel Hacksman out in Germany. He had, like, a label that was putting out electronic music, and we redid the sample that was on there and then re released it with a bunch of remixes and stuff like that. And. And he. And we put it out, you know what I'm saying? And then it blew up, like. And fucking, like, two weeks later, universal calls and they're looking to sign me and want to do all this shit. And so I was like, let's do it. And so then we re released it again on Universal, and it. And, you know, it. That. It really took off. That that song was like a career changing song for me. [00:46:43] Speaker A: Were you making songs like that before that one? [00:46:45] Speaker B: That was the first house song that I had ever really made. I mean, I tried making stuff and not nothing like that. And that was the first one I always. I had put out, for sure. [00:46:52] Speaker A: With the, like, the accordion. [00:46:54] Speaker B: Accordion sample. Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:46:56] Speaker A: Wow. [00:46:58] Speaker B: But, yeah, I actually got that master back. That's the only one of those. From the songs that have. With Universal, that's the only one that I own the master for. [00:47:06] Speaker A: So two months later, after that or after that, all that, you got signed to Universal? [00:47:10] Speaker B: Probably about. Yeah, two or three months. Yeah, it was very quick, like, so fast. [00:47:15] Speaker A: That's. [00:47:15] Speaker B: And then going through all that, you know, was just like. It was just wild. I got to. It was a. It was a brand's deal, so, like, it was a. It was a label based around a brand that Pepsi was, like, starting a label. So they got me all these shows with different artists and at art galleries and at fucking festivals and all kinds of things that they were just trying to get the music out, you know what I mean? And that's the way you do it, is by playing at all these places and. And it worked. [00:47:43] Speaker A: Right place at the right time. [00:47:45] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, it was the right place. I put out the song and it didn't live in my hard drive. If I wouldn't. If I would have put out that song two months later, like, who knows what happened? Or if I would be sitting on it right now still. You know what I'm saying? And I've still got songs in a hard drive from back then. [00:48:03] Speaker A: That's amazing, dude. That's so amazing. Wow. And it's so ever since that, that type of music, that type of, with having the sample on there, you just kept on making more. Making more money off of that. Off of that style. [00:48:16] Speaker B: Yeah, man. I even partnered with a label that has a bunch of samples that I've sampled before, and we just, I'm able to just go through all their stuff and just kind of sample whatever I want. [00:48:25] Speaker A: Yeah. So, so you still, are you still a vinyl junkie? [00:48:28] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, I just picked up a whole giant, like, I just got, like, yeah, I literally just got 10,000 records, like, on Sunday. Oh, you see? Yeah, we're sorting through them right now, but there's a, there's some crazy stuff in there. All these, like, bootleg, like, remixes and stuff like that, that nobody's ever like, well, that they'll never see the light of day because there's such bootleg, like, other people's music on them and stuff like that, that they're, like, really cool. So we got a lot of them. Shout out to DJ dragon man rip. [00:49:01] Speaker A: Oh, so it was his collection before. [00:49:04] Speaker B: It was his collection, and we had, you know, originally we had talked about me getting it when he was alive because he knew that I collected records and he knew how I take care of him and all that stuff. [00:49:14] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:49:14] Speaker B: And so he was always like, yo, just come get him. He would send me videos of his garage and shit. [00:49:19] Speaker A: Like, yeah. [00:49:20] Speaker B: He was like, come get a man and come get him. And, and when he passed, I didn't duty. He passed a few years ago. I didn't want to put no pressure on his family or nothing like that, so I just kind of left it alone, you know? And his wife hit me up, and she was like, hey, are you interested in taking the records? And I was all, yeah. I didn't even mention the fact that he, that he had. [00:49:38] Speaker A: He must have been telling her, like, something, right? [00:49:40] Speaker B: Like, yo, you need. You know what I mean? But I'm sure she kept. I'm sure she, she kept a couple of sets and, I mean, she kept his turntables, and he won some gold turntables one time that I was there. And so she's, you know, I'm sure she kept some mementos, really good ones. [00:50:01] Speaker A: Right on what cat. So do you know what kind you're going to be playing there in the. In the bar? [00:50:05] Speaker B: I mean, you know, it's going to be a chill spot. So definitely, like, some lo fi, some, like, hip hop remixes and, like, old school stuff, you know, just music on vinyl. I don't really have, like, I'm not gonna say that. We're gonna just play jazz there. None of that shit, you know? It's a listening bar. [00:50:24] Speaker A: Read the crowd. [00:50:24] Speaker B: Yeah, read the crowd. If anybody wants to hear hip hop, well, dude, let's play some hip hop, you know? Or if the dj that I brought down that weekend is gonna play hip hop, well, then, dude, like, that's what he's gonna be there for. And the crowd needs to expect it, you know? But I don't. I also don't want it to be, like, a pretentious thing where it's like, all these guys are. [00:50:42] Speaker A: Pretentious? [00:50:43] Speaker B: Yeah, pretentious. Just like. Like, kind of like. Like snooty. Yeah, like, kind of, like stuck up. We just want it to be like an open door, just the way the bodega is, you know what I mean? Like, anybody can come in here, you know, even if you're a nerd. Especially if you're. [00:51:00] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. So we hear you're a big nerd on Star wars. [00:51:04] Speaker B: Yeah, man, I'm definitely a Star wars nerd. [00:51:10] Speaker A: You had the sombrero Galaxy. [00:51:12] Speaker B: I had a somber. I had a whole album, basically, cholo. Mandalorian. But, yeah, man, I love Star wars. Me and my wife, like, my wife, like, I don't know, she likes it more than I do now. But we've gone to Disney multiple times to go see, to go to, like, batu, the planet. [00:51:31] Speaker A: Oh, that's there in Disney? [00:51:32] Speaker B: Yeah, Batu east and Batu west. Oh, nice. But. But, you know, I hope to experience more of it. Star wars is crazy. It's kind of like cult, you know what I mean? Like, whenever I see people, I have, like, a mandalorian sticker on my. On my truck. [00:51:47] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:51:48] Speaker B: And it's, like, black. And it's like a black sticker. So it's pretty funny. Like, when people see it, they're like. I'm all like, okay, yeah. All right. Tips, hat. It's a. Definitely, yeah, I'm cool. Finally, somewhere, someone likes me. [00:52:09] Speaker A: Oh, man, that's awesome. [00:52:10] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:52:11] Speaker A: Have you always been into it, or. [00:52:12] Speaker B: Yeah, man. Ever since I was kid, I always loved Sci-Fi I've always loved horror movies and. And cartoons, you know? And I'm saying, like, I've just. It's just cool, you know? And I like Star Wars a lot. I never really got into Star Trek too much. I like Star wars because it was kind of funny, you know what I'm saying? [00:52:32] Speaker A: And some humor. [00:52:33] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, it was kind of funny. And like, Star Trek, to me was a little too serious, and Dune was, like, way too serious, you know? But it's so fire. Yeah, it's so fire. Yeah. But, I mean, I've rewatched everything on Star Wars a hundred times, so. Dude, I've only seen it once. I'm definitely a rebel. Yeah, rebel all day. [00:53:00] Speaker A: All day. So rebel. Okay. Okay. [00:53:03] Speaker B: Also, I'm either. I lean towards rebel, but I'm definitely. I pledge my allegiance to no one. [00:53:13] Speaker A: Wow. So. So that's, like, in a bit, like, not, I guess, neutral. [00:53:17] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, I'm neutral, like, you know. [00:53:19] Speaker A: Yeah, like, neutral. Not. Not. So what is it? I don't really. I don't really follow that much. So Jedi and Jedi is. And sit. Is that. Is that what we're talking about? [00:53:27] Speaker B: I mean, it's, like, light dark. [00:53:29] Speaker A: Okay, okay. [00:53:29] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Also, like, rebels and Republic are, like, you know, it's like the people versus the government. You know? [00:53:40] Speaker A: So the. Okay, so fighting against the government or the empire, that's, like, trying to take. [00:53:44] Speaker B: Over, throw, but in the name of the government, saying that it's all good. Like, we're just trying to make everything good, but if you don't do what we say, we're gonna kill you. You know what I mean? And that's why everything's fucked. So similar to what's going on in real life. [00:54:01] Speaker A: Oh, I know, dude. I wonder if he. I wonder if he, the actual writer, had that in mind. [00:54:06] Speaker B: Yes, of course. Yeah, dude, every. All those guys are big, like, political. You know what I mean? Yeah, it's. It. It's a. It's foreshadowing, you know? And I'm saying, so you get into that deep. [00:54:21] Speaker A: I got to bring balance to the force, man. [00:54:23] Speaker B: That's what I do. [00:54:24] Speaker A: Yes. Anthony Diaz, bro, he always. He's always on here. He's got a podcast. [00:54:29] Speaker B: Nice. [00:54:30] Speaker A: 50 states of terror. He talks about, like, animals or, like. Like, the chupacabra. Oh, Texas. But he does it, like, in all different 50 states. [00:54:39] Speaker B: Right on. [00:54:40] Speaker A: So he finds one. So he's definitely nerds out in here as well. [00:54:43] Speaker B: Right on. [00:54:44] Speaker A: Appreciate. All right, ro. Thanks a lot. Yeah, man. That's awesome, dude. So Star wars. You're into Star wars? Yeah. And you mentioned, rude, that you just recently started vacationing, bro. [00:54:55] Speaker B: Yeah, I've never since. Okay, so this is kind of a sad story, but I've never gone on vacation before, ever in my life, and I went to Disney World when I. When my. When my. When my dad had his accident, we moved to Miami for like, a couple of years to, like, he went to, like, a spinal cord hospital over there, and when we went over there, we went to Disney World, like, on the move over there, and that was, like, in, like, 88 or something. 89. [00:55:25] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:55:25] Speaker B: And, like, I've never, just never went on vacation. I've traveled everywhere. I've gone fucking everywhere, and I've, like, done all kinds of crazy shit, but I've never really chilled in a spot, like, for nothing, you know? [00:55:37] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:55:38] Speaker B: And to us, like, going on vacation was like, you know, my dad was a quadriplegic, so we didn't really do vacations and stuff like that when I was a kid, but we would just, you know, go to the ranch or go relax, or they would take us to, you know. No, not very far. San Antonio, Houston, you know, whatever. [00:55:53] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:55:53] Speaker B: But now, you know, I was like, let's go. Let's start doing stuff. And, you know, I had a dog for a long time that was, like, 15, and, you know, when you're a dog person and you get into those last couple of years of the dog's life, like, you're just like, I'm not gonna go anywhere. I just want to be at home with a dog. And so, like, that basically was our last year was, like, just, like, taking care of our dog. And then finally when she passed away, like, the next week, we bought a ticket, and we're like, we're going to Star wars. [00:56:22] Speaker A: That's amazing. [00:56:23] Speaker B: You know what I mean? And so. And it was just kind of, like, you know, kind of when my. When my mom died, my dad died. When people die in your life, you kind of, like, realize, like, all these things that you should be doing, you know what I mean? And so it was just, like, you know what? Like, I have a lot of stuff going on at home, but, like, I need, like, three days to, like, just be, like, just chill and not do nothing, and it's important. I didn't know how important that was until I. Until I did it. And then also just, like, taking breaks is, like, very important. I learned this from Justin Gannan and John, the guys that built. Okay hi fi. They're. They're amazing artists and amazing designers, but they every, every night, they would, you know, like, when we were working on hi fi, they were busy all day. I'd hear them in the morning, like, getting in there, cutting and all this kind of stuff and doing all these things. And then at night, they would clean everything up, and then they would sit there and have a beer for, like, two or 3 hours. And I was like, don't y'all want to go home? Or, like, don't y'all. Y'all are here, like, why aren't y'all getting to work or something? And they're like. And it was like, dude, they were working. Like, they would sit there and we would talk about, okay, well, tomorrow, you know, we're gonna make this thing that's, like, blah, blah. And everybody. He was using the space as he was building it and getting comfort. Like, it's so comfortable in there right now. Like, if you go in there, it's like, man, this place feels like it's been here for, like, a long time. You know what I mean? But it's because those dudes have been to a lot of places, and they've done a lot of things, and they went in there, and while they were building it, they took those important breaks, and they, like, sat there and they were like, dude, this is. You know, and we would, dude, like, come up with things working while you're. While you're. While you're taking a break, you know? But, like, taking those breaks is, like, very important. That's something that I never really done, is, like, I've lived here. I live upstairs, and my studio is downstairs. So every single day is just like, I'm downstairs, so, like, hustling all the time. All the time. Never turning it off, you know what I mean? That's one. That's one bad thing about living down here above the studio, is, like, you never really get to turn it off. It's always, like, I'm always thinking about the next beat or whatever, you know? And so that's, like, important. That was an important thing that I learned from them, is just like, you got to take breaks. You know what I mean? And so take a break. And I. I took a break last year from November or from, uh. Like. Yeah, like, I think after October was, like, my last gig, and then I just said, fuck it. I'm not going to play anymore till March. So we took a long break, went on Disney World, Disneyland. [00:58:53] Speaker A: How did it work? How did it work for you? [00:58:55] Speaker B: It went pretty good. I like it. I got it. I will say, though, that I have, like, mad fomo. Like, I always want to, like, do stuff and, like, you know, but that's part of my discipline, is, like, not doing things that I want to do, you know what I mean? Like, going out and, like. You know what I mean? Like, doing, like, going out. Especially here in corpus, I don't go. I never go anywhere, like, I never go. I go out every once in a while, like, have a drink or whatever, but I want to do it a lot more. But I think that, like, I just. I don't know. They just don't do it. And, like I said, I like to just chill. You know what I mean? [00:59:30] Speaker A: Like a homebody. [00:59:31] Speaker B: I'm a very, very. I'm, like, the homiest homeboy there is. [00:59:35] Speaker A: It's funny, because you perform in front of a lot of people, you would think that you would. You wouldn't be that way. [00:59:40] Speaker B: You know, I. I have very awkward and so social anxiety. Not, you know, not by choice, but it's just like, either I'm either on or I'm totally off. [00:59:52] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:59:52] Speaker B: I mean, there's, like, no in between. Crazy. When it hits, it hits. [00:59:56] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:59:56] Speaker B: Right on. [00:59:57] Speaker A: Yeah. It makes me think in that podcast with the Johnny hotcakes that used to go to sound warehouse and be there hours at a time and just read. [01:00:05] Speaker B: Yeah, I love doing things by myself. Even now. I go to eat all by myself all the time. I'm always like, go to Barnes and Noble and read now. And, you know, my wife works till nighttime, so. And my schedule is pretty much all day. But, like, I try to work, like, all the way until then. And if she's gonna be busy or she's not home yet, I'll, like, find some time to, like, do something else, go read or whatever. [01:00:32] Speaker A: Amazing, dude. [01:00:33] Speaker B: Yeah. I don't know. Just, like. But it's not like, you know, I'm not, like a bookworm or anything, either. Yeah, I like to learn a lot of stuff. [01:00:39] Speaker A: No, it's almost like you got to keep your mind up. [01:00:42] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:00:42] Speaker A: Your intellectual level needs to stay up. [01:00:45] Speaker B: Yeah, man, I'm also getting old. I don't want my brain to, like, get all mushy. [01:00:50] Speaker A: Man. Desi, this has been an awesome interview, man. Appreciate you coming on. [01:00:54] Speaker B: It was a lot deeper than I thought it was gonna. I thought we were gonna be here, like, you know, talking. Talking shit, beers, partying. Oh. [01:01:02] Speaker A: So, what do you think about this? [01:01:03] Speaker B: I, like, this is very good. I think it's important to cover a lot of these things. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's. It's one of those things that, like. It's, like, really therapeutic to talk about, like, things that you go through and stuff like that, especially, like, when you're. When you say it out loud, it's, like, not as big of a deal in your. As it is in your head, you know? And, like, I'm always, like, beating myself up in my head, talk about it. It's kind of like, that's not such a bad idea, you know? [01:01:29] Speaker A: Yeah. So, yeah, sorry, man. I say goodbye, like several times. [01:01:33] Speaker B: All right, we're out of here, Amy. [01:01:34] Speaker A: So, you know, what happened to, like. I know, cuz I lived in, like, tulsa for like a year. I went to school over there and lived out of town. And when I do. When I do stuff that I do here, over there, like just simple stuff, like cleaning or hustling or whatever, people are like more appreciative of it as opposed to, like, if I'm here, they're like, yeah, whatever, you know. Do you get that? [01:01:56] Speaker B: Well, I think it's all about who the people you put yourself around. You know what I mean? And I've definitely felt. And I've seen other peers, like, they're from here and I don't. They don't get the kind of love they get out of town. But the thing is that you only are out of town for one day, you know what I'm saying? So if you lived there, you would feel that same way. If I moved to LA and I keep telling everybody, oh, man, everybody loves me in LA so much. It's so awesome, you know, it's not like how it is back home. Six months into being there, I'm gonna go back home. [01:02:30] Speaker A: Right? [01:02:30] Speaker B: I need to go back home. And then when you go home, you're like, everybody loves you. And you're like, oh, it's so awesome. I need to go back. Like, when you go back to LA, you're like, oh, man, I let everybody love me at home so much. You know, it's just. It's. The grass is greener everywhere. [01:02:46] Speaker A: I gotcha. So how you look at it? Depends. Is it's just all. [01:02:50] Speaker B: Yeah, and it's whatever situation you're in, but. But, yes, man, you know, I've definitely felt like that before. You know, that goes back to, like, how ab was saying, you know, backyard. I mean, dude, I felt. I feel that, you know, like, those guys are pretty big time, you know what I'm saying? And for them, like, a lot of people didn't. Especially back in the day, they definitely weren't fucking with those guys. Like. Like some of the. His bandmates, you know what I mean? They definitely fuck with a. Be with their bandmates was like, you know, some of those guys were getting like, fights and all kinds of shit. I'm not saying that they weren't starting shit either, because I know those guys personally. They start a lot of shit. But you know what I mean? It's just like, you know, you like, you know, one bad thing that they say about you and it's over, you know, especially in a town like corpus. But they had a. They had, you know, those guys had a good run. I've had a good run. Everybody's. I think that, like, people have supported me in this town for whatever the fuck I want to do, and it's always something weird, and it's always, well, like, recepted. And I'm, like, very grateful of that, you know? [01:03:52] Speaker A: That's amazing, dude. Congrats, man. It's awesome, man. Appreciate you. Anthony Diaz, best show, best podcast. Thanks a lot, bro. Appreciate that. Stay tuned for the next few, man. Well, you got anything else you want to share? [01:04:04] Speaker B: Dust, man. That's it, dude. I've got, you know, the bar coming next week. Hopefully everybody will come by and check it out and. Yeah, be on the lookout for new music. [01:04:13] Speaker A: Yeah. Hell yeah, bro. So that's what's in the future, man. Dust. Thanks for coming on, man. Thanks for coming on, bro. Stay tuned, you guys, for the next few episodes. I don't really know what I got lined up, but I got some people coming on. Shout out to Maya back there for making this all look nice and doing the camera switching and all kinds of stuff. See you guys next time. Have a good one.

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