#58 | Juan Manuel (ZombieKing)

[00:00:00] Speaker A: What's going on, y'all? Corpus Christi Originals, back at it again. Coming to you live from the Produce Stream Lab Studio downtown Corpus Christi, Texas. Today we got ZombieKings vocalist Juan Manuel. What's going on, dude? [00:00:12] Speaker B: What's up, everybody? Hey, how's it going, man? [00:00:14] Speaker A: Yeah, how's it going? So. So we. We met through TikTok. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you saw some of our stuff, and then you're like, hey, let me just, I guess, shoot my shot so you can be on the podcast or whatever. [00:00:26] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. So I'm like, yeah, so I just. I mean, we were just talking about this. I got on TikTok maybe less than a year ago. I don't really pour much into it, but, yeah, I'm trying to, you know, build up my, I guess, individual portfolios. What? Yeah, in a sense. And on my feed, I saw a few of your clips, and then I was like, you know what, man? It kind of makes sense to, you know, collaborate with people from. From the area. And I'm a Corpus boy, and I saw your page, and I was like, no brainer. Right? Like, what school did you go to, Miller? [00:00:57] Speaker A: Oh, hell yeah, bro. Buccaneers in the house. [00:00:59] Speaker B: Yes, sir. [00:01:00] Speaker A: That's what's up, man. Yeah, that's cool. It's rare we get some bucks in here. A lot of them are for moody. They had to do from yesterday from our may, but. Dude, glad you're here, bro. And, yeah, so you know Robert Beltran? [00:01:13] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah. [00:01:14] Speaker A: So you know him well, I guess from the neighborhood or whatever, cuz y'all are recording with him now or. [00:01:18] Speaker B: Yeah, so we got. We got put in touch with him, really through some of the guys that he's worked with in the past. Do a little shout out to Shattered Sun. Those guys from Alice, Texas, they're still doing their thing. I think they're trying to do a little comeback. They just had a show a couple of months ago and that we were on, but, yeah, that kind of, like, brought us together with Robert. He's the guy in town, in the area that does, you know, rock and metal, and that's his, like, that's what he specializes in. So we were like, let's go. Let's go try that out. And so we've worked. We've worked with him the last, I want to say, four years, four and a half, five years. [00:02:00] Speaker A: What's that bit? Has. So the changes. Has that been. What's that like as far as changing recording engineers to him now? Is it. Is it a different recording process? [00:02:10] Speaker B: It's so it's weird because you. You would think there would be less, I guess, less creative freedom or less say so, but it's still all there. I guess the biggest thing is we have a lot more direction now. You know, there's that extra member of the band who's not really, but he's there watching, and he's the guy to, like, you know, kind of just bounce ideas off of. Or if we're kind of just getting too crazy with things, like, hey, like, bring us back in and, like, this is your bread and butter. Let's. Let's stick with this. You know, whereas before the last, you know, the few guys that we've worked with here in town, it was kind of like, set up the mics and, you know, set up everything. Do your thing. [00:02:56] Speaker A: Wow. [00:02:57] Speaker B: So. And they. Yeah, they had their. They had their ideas, too, but it was more of like, we're going in, we got our ideas. This is what we're gonna do. And now it's more of like, hey, we should try this. We should try this. Just in case, even if it doesn't work, let's get everything out there, put it all together, and then end product is what. Pretty much what we've been putting out now. [00:03:18] Speaker A: Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah. Shout out to Robert Beltran, which I was, I think, was in the same grade, meta graduate, graduated the same year. But excrete was their band. They were in with Seth and can't remember the other dudes in there, but, yeah, shout out to them. And actually, I had a band, two thousands. And we recorded with Robert. I had no idea he had a studio in his home. So, anyway, so you. So you guys are open to the ideas that he might have for y'all's stuff? [00:03:45] Speaker B: Most of them. Yeah. Yeah. And there's even, like. And he'll tell you himself, there's times where, like, he's tried stuff and was like. He's like, oh, shit, that didn't work out. Yeah, I know. Yeah, you guys were right. Let's try this again. So it's. I mean, no, it's. It's. It's cool. It's like a kind of. Kind of fifth. I would say, like maybe 60 40. You know, I was gonna say 50 50, but no, he lets us do our thing, too, so. [00:04:05] Speaker A: Yeah, that's what's up, man. That's cool. So. So he's working on y'all's new. Y'all got a new ep coming out in the summer of 2024. The reveling. [00:04:14] Speaker B: Yeah, man. Originally scheduled to release late last year. Last, you know, winter. And we have. We've have. It's something that keeps happening throughout our career. We had a few setbacks, pushed the dates back, and now it's looking like summertime is gonna be when this ep is gonna drop. We had a single drop late last year that was paralyzed. That's the first track that we've dropped from the ep. We have another one coming soon, I would say in about a month. So we're. Yeah, we're four or five weeks out from dropping the next title track, the reveling, so. [00:04:51] Speaker A: Okay, so. So you. So you're dropping songs from that episode one by one, like, it part. [00:04:58] Speaker B: I think we're gonna. By the time we. By the time summer comes around, we're gonna have, I think, maybe two songs that haven't been released yet, so that'll be with the album drop. [00:05:08] Speaker A: Cool, man. That's what's up, dude. [00:05:09] Speaker B: We try to do that. We kind of try to keep consistent, and every couple of months, they drop another single. [00:05:14] Speaker A: What? Why is that? Just so people. You know what? [00:05:16] Speaker B: I think it works for us best here, man. We don't have. As far as. We haven't. We haven't yet put together a full album of, like, say, your ten or twelve or 15 or songs. Right. We don't have that. We have material. We just haven't had the means to, like, put that all together. And so what we do have is, like, a handful of things, and we're like, hey, like, let's stay. Let's stay busy. Let's stay relevant. Let's stay, you know, just grinding. So, like, let's drop whatever we have at the time, and that's just what it's been and it's worked for us. [00:05:49] Speaker A: That's cool. Yeah, yeah, it's awesome. And so you guys are signed to. Are y'all still signed? [00:05:54] Speaker B: Yes and no. So our music is. We have a 50 50 partnership with Pavement entertainment for the first ep that we dropped in 2020, dead to life. And so they own half of the rights of that. Of all of the music that's on that, but we are free to sign it with any label. So we're still doing our thing. [00:06:19] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:06:20] Speaker B: So it's still for us, very much diy, so. [00:06:24] Speaker A: Right on, dude. Yeah, that's awesome. So. So I guess you guys got to start touring or playing in different places. How are you approaching that aspect of y'all's journey? I guess. [00:06:33] Speaker B: Yeah, so that's the. That was the next step that we've talked about a lot this year. We wanted to do it last year, but like I said earlier, there was. There were a lot of setbacks with us, and I'll get. I guess I'll get to that eventually, but, yeah, we. We want to shoot for doing, like, San Antonio, Austin, Houston, maybe even as far as, like, Dallas Valley. So. So for us. [00:06:55] Speaker A: Right. So you. And you have to make those days or find out. Okay, so. [00:07:00] Speaker B: So that's all on us, man. [00:07:01] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. It's not like the label does it. [00:07:04] Speaker B: For you, and we actually. Yeah, so we're not signed, so it's like we're doing everything ourselves. And what's. What's neat about it is we're really working with guys or connections that we've made in the past, like, through playing shows here in the area. So that's why we named a lot of the cities that I named their bands and almost all of those that we've worked with. So we're like, hey, reach out to them eventually. Like, let's go help you guys out. You got a show coming up. We'll open for you guys, or will, you know. [00:07:32] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that networking is good. [00:07:36] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:07:37] Speaker A: So it. I guess it. It pays to, like, not hate on other bands, I guess you can say, cuz, you never. Right? You know what I mean, cuz? [00:07:44] Speaker B: Yeah, it's tough, though. [00:07:45] Speaker A: It's hard. [00:07:46] Speaker B: Like, every scene has that. Yeah, it's like. [00:07:50] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. [00:07:51] Speaker B: We felt that, like, oh, man, I've heard so many. It's. It's. It's hilarious, man. But I get it, you know, cuz I was that little kid that was like, I want to get out there, man. [00:08:00] Speaker A: Right? [00:08:00] Speaker B: Like, oh, they got a shot. They got a shot. Like, what about us? What about us? [00:08:04] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:08:05] Speaker B: And it's like, you got to put in the work to get there, and it all makes sense now, you know? It's like, yeah, a lot of. I feel like a lot of those guys are probably in that position that we used to be in, man. We should be doing this, but make it happen, man. [00:08:16] Speaker A: Put in the work. [00:08:17] Speaker B: Yeah, put in. [00:08:18] Speaker A: Grind it. Grind it out. Yeah, grind it out and get there. Yeah. That's awesome, man. So how. So you're the vocalist of the band, original vocalist of the band or. [00:08:27] Speaker B: Man. [00:08:29] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:08:30] Speaker B: So Eddie and I will kind of go. I would say, yeah, man. Yeah. Cause they had a guy trying out probably a couple of months before I joined, but they were in the garage. They hadn't played anywhere, you know, so. Yeah, so us as a full unit, like, playing live shows. Like, this is. The Ogs are myself and Eddie the guitarist. [00:08:51] Speaker A: Yeah. Right, right. Yeah, that's cool, man. Is Eddie the one with the. So I think the Tosino. What is it? What's the dude's name? Tosin Abbasi or whatever. He's got that guitar. Yes, that's him. Okay. Okay. [00:09:03] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, so it's such a beautiful guitar, man. That thing is a. [00:09:09] Speaker A: Do you play guitar? [00:09:10] Speaker B: I. A little bit, man, dabble, but I'm not. I'm not really. Yeah, I focus on just singing. I play a little, like, play some piano. I play guitar, but I really, like, I tried each instrument out and I was like, I got as far as I could with each. [00:09:24] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:09:24] Speaker B: I was like, oh, you know, maybe it's not for me. And I lost and I'll still go back and play, you know, some. Some guitar, just, you know, chords and singing along. I really love it more for accompaniment. It's like, I love to sing. So I'm like, I need something to go with it. So either that or if I have a keyboard around. But, yeah, voice is my thing. [00:09:42] Speaker A: That's what's up, man. Thanks a lot, Garza, for all the gifts. Thank you, everybody, for joining the tick tock. We got somebody in there with a triple star. I don't know if you know who that is. He says, what's your favorite band inspiration? [00:09:53] Speaker B: Damn. Or bands right off the top of the head right now? Favorite band inspiration. Let me go with something that's kind of inspired this next record right here. I'll say coheating Cambria because of their ability to just take a. An idea, a dream, a concept and turn that into something that's just like, they've done wonders with what, like, their whole catalog is like just an insane story. And it's. That's. That's, for me, that's goals. Like, I want it. I want to be able to be a storyteller the way. The way they're able to do that and. Yeah, Claudio is an insane vocalist guitarist. Yeah, yeah, that's just one of them, man. [00:10:41] Speaker A: That's cool, man. [00:10:42] Speaker B: There's a bunch of ogs to, you know, maiden and Metallica. You name them. It's cool. [00:10:49] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, just, that's pretty cool. They. I'm not. I don't follow them, but that sounds pretty cool how they. How they have an idea. So does it span across the whole album that, like, their ideas for. [00:10:59] Speaker B: So they've got. Man, what record are they on? And they're. They're like, on either, like, nine albums now. One of them was out of. Out of all of those. Only one of them is not a concept record. And the others, or. Yeah, they all follow this. This saga. It's almost people liking it to, like, Star wars or something like that. [00:11:22] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. It reminds me of tool. Like tool or one of those prog metal bands, you know? [00:11:28] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. [00:11:29] Speaker A: That's awesome, man. Yeah. So let me see. Recording process with Rabba. What's the hardest song to sing live or the easiest song to sing live from your set? [00:11:41] Speaker B: Oh, man. You know what? I would have to say I'm so comfortable with all of the old songs on the set list. All of the. All of the old ep, the dead to life ep, anything before that, or, you know, exit life or whatever, our early demos, those are all, like, put me on stage, I'll get it. Like that. [00:12:04] Speaker A: Yes. [00:12:04] Speaker B: The newer stuff that gets me. And it's not because of any, like, I'm not capable of it. I've had some things happen to me in the last, like, two years that has really limited me physically. So hitting certain notes or, like, doing certain things on stage in. In the moment, like, with all the energy and the crowd going wild and, like, you're out of breath, you're moving around, you're jumping. Certain times I find myself just like, oh, shit, I'm not going to reach that note or I'm going to, like, you know, like, I might just mess it up, but I get through it. I get through it just fine, but I get in my head sometimes about the new stuff. So I would say, yeah, the new songs. [00:12:45] Speaker A: Well, so those are the hardest. [00:12:47] Speaker B: Yeah. Like, right now, like, paralyzed. Like, I can. I. I can do it, man. I can do it for sure. But my thing is sometimes physically, I'm, like, hurting, hitting those notes, so. And I don't know if anybody, like, notices that while we're on stage, because we do a pretty good job of, like, covering up any little mishaps or things like that. [00:13:07] Speaker A: So, yeah, life is different. [00:13:08] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Yeah. And you feed off the crowd, so it's like, hey, fuck it, you know? Like, I'm going all in. If I hit it, I hit it. If not, they ain't gonna know it. Like, they're gonna. It's. It's gonna work, you know, I'll find a way to make it work. [00:13:20] Speaker A: Yeah. So do you use. Do you use the in ears or do you rely on the monitors on. [00:13:23] Speaker B: The floor right now? I don't do in ears. That's for me, like, personally, that's next step for me. And the other guys have talked about it, too. The only ones. The only one that has the in ears would be other. On the drummer. Everyone else's just monitor. [00:13:38] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:13:38] Speaker B: Which I don't mind, but I feel like all the way up to this point, I feel like I've almost always had trouble hearing myself. [00:13:49] Speaker A: Oh. [00:13:50] Speaker B: And. But. But it doesn't matter to me right now because I'm. I stay on time as long as I hear the guys, you know, it. Give me some guitar or give me some bass. Give me a, you know, drum in the back. Yeah, I'll stay on. I'll stay on, you know, but I would love to at one point, just have it all there and not have to exercise so much of that extra effort, you know? Yeah. It would help me vocally, too. It would help me, like, probably hit everything that I need to hit. [00:14:22] Speaker A: Yeah, that's what's up. So did you take, like, vocal training, or did you teach yourself when you first started singing? [00:14:29] Speaker B: Uh, yes and no. Um, knock loose. Oh, yeah. They were just on a signy world, right? [00:14:36] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. So we got. If you're listening, we got a comment through tick tock. It says, have you heard knocked loop? Knocked loose? They have a song that they used reggaeton beat on their breakdown. No way. Wow. That'd be interesting to hear. Yeah, knock loose. It was at a band. [00:14:53] Speaker B: Mm hmm. [00:14:54] Speaker A: No. Okay. [00:14:54] Speaker B: Yeah, man, what was I. I forgot what I was getting at. [00:14:59] Speaker A: Yeah, no, I was. I asked you about your. Your vocal training. [00:15:03] Speaker B: Yeah, lessons. So, yes, I did take lessons, but I actually had been, like, from a young age, like, three, four, five years old, always singing whatever my parents had on, you know, it was always something that I loved doing, but it was. I didn't really think about it. I just did it, you know, just like, whatever, like, emulating whoever they had on. And a lot of times, like, it was very different stuff. It wasn't like rock and metal. There's a little bit of rock in there, but it was like the eighties or seventies or. Yeah, you know, the older. [00:15:36] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:15:37] Speaker B: Some of it was like, glam or whatever. Journey, death, leopard, all that stuff. [00:15:40] Speaker A: Those are, like, some of the best singers. [00:15:42] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly. Right. And I'm like. But a lot of it was also, like, you had your, like, funk and r and b. You had, like, the Hanoi Selena yet, which all of us, a lot of us have, you know, listened to growing up, parents, grandparents. Right. But, yeah, no, I. So I was. I did love singing at an early age. It wasn't until I was in college, I want to say, I was like, probably my second year in college at Del Mar, I took vocal lessons with Doctor Radha there, and I don't know if he's still there. He might not be there anymore. But, um, man, I took maybe two semesters of it. I was like, I feel like I got what I need. And even you said, like, you, this is all the stuff you need to do at home. It's all on you to, like, take it home. [00:16:30] Speaker A: Wow. [00:16:30] Speaker B: And do it yourself and not have that person there directing. [00:16:34] Speaker A: You do actual classical pieces with that? [00:16:37] Speaker B: Yeah, there's a lot of classical. And it was all over the place. Old, like, folk songs, Irish, German. [00:16:44] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:16:45] Speaker B: So, yeah, I didn't learn the languages, but I learned them enough to get through the music. I learned the words for that, for those pieces, and that was it. Move on to the next. And he always switched it up, you know? [00:16:54] Speaker A: Yeah. It's interesting to me because you gotta, like, enunciate certain yeah. Sounds and. Yeah, that makes you a better vocalist, I think. I mean, do you find yourself utilizing that stuff in your stuff now? [00:17:04] Speaker B: One thing I. Yeah, actually, there is a one thing he said way back, this was maybe my second semester, we were. He had a project for us. Like, we will go in and sing a song that we love, something that inspired us. Perform it in front of him. And he would grade whatever or, you know, technique or whatever. And I think I did. I did all the audio slave. I think I did. I'm not the highway, or I think it was. I think it was that one, or I'm the highway. Sorry. And he. I don't think it was. When he was grading me on that one, he told me, I think before we picked music, he mentioned about country music. Most singers, like, at the tell ends of phrases, they'll end the phrase early, but keep the. Keep that note going way longer. Whereas classically, like, say, like, you're ending with, like, a e. Like, they'll go right to it as, like, classically, you'll, like, stretch it like a. Like, you'll draw out a sound longer than it did. Yeah. To keep going longer. I forget how he worded it, but that was one thing that stuck out to me, and I notice it in pop music now. I noticed it on, like, radio, like, hits. I'm like, okay. Little things like, that could change. Like, it. Make a break a song, you know? [00:18:26] Speaker A: Wow, that's amazing. Yeah. So do you read. So you read music? That's awesome, man. [00:18:31] Speaker B: Yeah. It's been a little while, but, yeah, if I need to. Yeah. [00:18:33] Speaker A: Yeah. So do some of the dudes. So you said you mentioned one of your bandmates. He was. It. He was. That. He was in college with you? I think I read it somewhere. [00:18:41] Speaker B: Eddie was. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We actually. We ran into. We crossed paths. This must have been, like, 2000, 920, ten. When we were both at Delmar taking classes. He was doing, like, liberal arts or something. And I was overdoing, like, accounting or business management. And in between that, we. I would. There's probably a lot of people, if they were at Del Mar at the time, they might remember I would sit at either, like, the Harvard center or, like, the Coles building or one of those. I would take my guitar with me in between classes. Because sometimes I would have to wait, like, up to an hour. Right? [00:19:21] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:19:22] Speaker B: Well, shit, I need something to do, right? I just don't want to be, like, sitting there bored or whatever. Take my guitar and just fiddle around, start singing stuff. I'm just playing little chords or whatever. And like, a handful of times, this dude comes walking by in the hallway and like, hey, what's up, man? Nice guitar. Whatever. Eventually, like, third or fourth time, he's like, hey, sits down. He's like, you mind if I play real quick? Yeah, sure, why not? Just. He sits down real quick. Just freaking going to school, you know, like, I'm like, bro, this guy's got it. I don't know what I'm doing. How do you stop bringing this with me? Because I don't know how to play this. No, but, like, yeah, he was. He was just like. I was like, man, this guy's got. He's crazy talented. It never. It never went past us talking, like, crossing like that, you know? It wasn't until 20, 2014, when I put myself out there, like, looking to join a band. And these guys had an ad on Craigslist. [00:20:23] Speaker A: Wow. [00:20:25] Speaker B: Yeah. Going to find out. I end up showing up. And after the. After the rehearsal or whatever, or the tryout, I mean, you know, I looked at Eddie, I was like, man, don't know you. And he's like, yeah, we're from. We were, like, trying to figure it out. Yeah, sure enough. We're like, man, oh, yeah, that's right. We used to. That's fucking wild. Like, five years later or whatever. [00:20:46] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, that's what's up. So. Wow. So you didn't start. So y'all didn't start in high school? It was in more in the college age. Wow. Yeah. So. So is that the first time you started looking for a band? Is that the first band you've been in? [00:20:59] Speaker B: Uh, yes, it's the first time I was in a band or joined a band or tried out. I had been already looking around for at least a year before that. I would go to open mics around here. I would go to House of Rock. Right. And then I started jamming with some guys. It wasn't really a band, it was just like a. I would go to open jam sessions with. I don't know if you remember Imperial Cafe, right behind Best Buy, right on Corona. So my homie Eric, whose family owns. Own that place, he used to do like, every Thursdays would be like a college night, but they would do like open jams and it would get crazy packed, right? And I went because a buddy of mine, my friend Mike, had gone. He was like, you got to check it out. He pulled me over there. [00:21:48] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:21:49] Speaker B: So I ended up sticking that. Sticking around and going almost every week and jamming with all the guys there. [00:21:52] Speaker A: Nice. [00:21:54] Speaker B: Yeah, so that's really what I was doing before. And I was. A lot of that was like more like reggae, ska, alternative. [00:22:00] Speaker A: Yeah, I remember hearing. Yeah, I heard a band in there one time, they were doing like hip hop. Yeah, it might have been. Might have been you guys. And then one time I went, there was like a jazz group. [00:22:10] Speaker B: Yeah, for sure. And there's a lot of guys that I still see around town that used to go to that, too. I don't know if you know tello, Adrian Tello, he used to go there. There was Eric, Enrique is a drummer. I think he used to go there too, man. There's a bunch of dudes that used to jam there with us. Yeah, but, yeah, that's really what. That's when I started. Even before that, like when I was going through college, one of my best friends, who was my roommate at the time, his band used to jam in our. In my garage. They would rehearse every, you know, other weekend or so. So that kind of started the itch too, for me wanting to try it out myself. I would hear them. Not that they were bad. I'm like, man, I feel like I can do that too. So that kind of led to me wanting to, like, maybe that's what I need to do. I always like singing anyways. Maybe I should try out. [00:23:02] Speaker A: You got peer pressure. Didn't do it. [00:23:05] Speaker B: It worked out, though. [00:23:06] Speaker A: Yeah, that's awesome, man. Yeah, so the. So you. You guys are some. Some of you guys are from Robstown. Okay. [00:23:13] Speaker B: So, yeah, so Drew, the bassist, and Eddie the guitarist, they are from Robstown. Those guys grew up together, went to school together. They've known each other, you know, their whole lives. Yeah. And I joined through that ad that I saw online of Edward, and at the time, he was jamming with a different drummer. Havo shout out, hobbo. What's up, man? Yeah, they were. Oh, hell, yeah. Lincoln park. Yes. But I heard they might have a female singer. [00:23:47] Speaker A: Yeah, I heard that. [00:23:47] Speaker B: Who knows, man? I think if they find the right one, they can do it, but, yeah, as long as they have that spirit and, like, they honor everything that Chester did, I think it's a cool move, man. I'll go watch it. [00:23:58] Speaker A: Yeah. If you're listening, there's. Somebody asked on tick tock, it said, excited that Lincoln park might do a reunion tour. And I heard that. That it might be that girl that actually did a song with them. [00:24:07] Speaker B: Okay. [00:24:07] Speaker A: There was a. There was a girl from. I kind of. I don't remember her name, but they were saying that. That she might be the singer. [00:24:13] Speaker B: Okay. [00:24:13] Speaker A: For the. That'd be pretty cool. [00:24:16] Speaker B: Yeah, I'll definitely check it out, man. [00:24:17] Speaker A: Yeah. And one of your songs was influenced by, actually, Chester and the dude from Soundgarden. [00:24:23] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:24:24] Speaker A: Right. [00:24:24] Speaker B: Yeah. So. Yes, we. And that was. Oh, my gosh. And I'm still throwing little Easter eggs in there, too. Lyrically, like, if people, like, really, like, sit down and read them, they'll see little. Little bits and pieces that I just, like. They were. I didn't realize how big of an inspiration they were until they passed away. And I had never really big celebrities, big artists, musicians, bands, or whatever they would, like. You know, you would see that somebody would pass away. You see on the news all the bad stuff. None of them really ever made me, like. They never really, like, hit me hard. Right? Yeah. But when Cornell passed away, you know, sound guard and audio save, I was like, holy shit. I felt weird, man. [00:25:10] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:25:10] Speaker B: And me and my ex at the time, we were, like, driving. We heard it on the news, and we were like, both, like, what? Like, no way. Like, that guy really? What? And then I start thinking about it, and I'm like, man, this guy was a bigger influence on me that I realized, like, it's one of those things, like, you. You, like, almost nostalgic to, like, you turn on that music or you hear it so often, it's like you're comfortable. You're at home, you know? So that one. That one was like, that one kind of got got me freaked out a little bit. I was like, damn, dude, don't hit me. And then. Yeah, Chester, it was. I mean, middle school, high school. Like, everybody was jamming hybrid theory, meteora, like, aside from, like, system of down corn, slipknot, you know, all those guys were. We were jamming all that stuff to. Yeah, mud vein, whatever. But, uh, yeah, everybody linkin park was like one of those big bands that almost everybody was like, yes, we love them. We're gonna check them out. Like, yeah, so those huge influence, too, man. [00:26:08] Speaker A: They both side of the same thing, man. Like, damn, seriously. [00:26:12] Speaker B: Yeah, whatever. That was a belt on a door. [00:26:17] Speaker A: Yeah. I don't know, they both. But they both killed him, so that's. [00:26:19] Speaker B: What I was or whatever. Right. Purposes, but. [00:26:24] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think Soundgarden had more of influence because I'm more nineties. I listen. Yeah, yeah. So, like, oh, yeah, the arrangements are awesome. And the way a Cornell would go around those different chords, that wouldn't even. It was weird because the chords wouldn't be in the key. They would just, like, transpose for a few. Yeah, for a few chords, you know what I mean? And that was cool with the way he did it. [00:26:53] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:26:53] Speaker A: And I even still listen to his. [00:26:55] Speaker B: Range, man, was insane. [00:26:56] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:26:57] Speaker B: One thing that got me to, I was like, man, there's not a really. There's not really another voice like that anymore. And it's hard to find those. Those unique voices that can just, like, do almost all of it because he could get aggressive too, if he wanted to. Yeah, that's what you would hear that on, like, older tracks, but, uh. Yeah, but beautiful at the same time. So, yeah, that's. That's goals for me to have a universal singing voice. So many of the new cats out here that are jamming, they love, like, the hardcore heavy shit, and that's cool, too, man. I love. I love bands who have, like, screaming vocals who got a little harsh, you know, heavy vocals. That's. That's awesome. I jam a lot of it, too, but goals for myself, I want to be able to sing and have it be timeless, too, you know? [00:27:42] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:27:42] Speaker B: I feel like a lot of times, the heavy, harsh vocals aren't as. Aren't. They don't have that. I guess that chance of being timeless like the other, you know, I guess song pieces would be. Would have. [00:28:01] Speaker A: Do you find that you're still finding your. I guess your. Your voice as a vocalist? [00:28:06] Speaker B: Um, I think I've found what works. I found what works with this band. What's weird is, like, we're only scratching the surface right now, too, because I know before I join these guys, I know when I'm not there jamming with them when I'm at home, my influences, like, the genres are, like, almost all over. Like, they're all over the place. So it's like, I know I can do a little bit of. I can do, like, some clean stuff. I can do reggae. I can do r and b. I can, like, I can do all of those things. [00:28:38] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:28:38] Speaker B: It hasn't presented itself, like, in the band yet, but it. But it will eventually. I know. [00:28:45] Speaker A: So. So do you. Are you. Are you gonna use your thing, like, to stay with the band or to work with other groups? Like, what's your. I guess, your personal goal as a musician? [00:28:56] Speaker B: Oh, so I. I'm all for any of us in the band working with other guys, like, working outside, whether you're doing a feature or full on, like, side project. But we know that to be at our best, like, to do our best work, the focus has to be on. On ZK, you know, 100% of the time. It's hard to do that when you have so many other commitments around. Around recording with us, playing live shows with us. [00:29:32] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:29:32] Speaker B: And that's where a lot of the setbacks that come back for us, personally, I don't have anything else going on outside of the band right now. I've entertained it. I've thought about, hey, if people need a voice on whatever music around, I'm not that plugged into the scene as I. As you would think. Like, I'm corpus born and raised, but I see a lot of people put things out, like, here. And even with all the produce guys, like, you know, I see, like, house or, like, r amp b. I see different, like, music going up. [00:30:01] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:30:01] Speaker B: And I'm like, I have. I have a gift, or I have a talent to offer. If people need, you know, vocals, I'm down to do it. I don't see why not. You know, it wouldn't hurt. It wouldn't hurt the band. It wouldn't take much for me. [00:30:16] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:30:17] Speaker B: I love writing. It helps. It honestly helps me out the way I work best writing. When I get, like, a writer's block, I step away from that piece to work on other pieces until I get that spark again to. To get this piece going again. [00:30:34] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:30:35] Speaker B: So it's something I picked up from piano class way back, you know, learning. Learning music. You're gonna get stuck at times. [00:30:43] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:30:43] Speaker B: But don't stop. Yeah, just step away. Work on this instead, it'll. It'll probably spark something or give you ideas that you needed in this other piece. So that's. That's how I work, especially with writing, too. [00:30:57] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:30:57] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:30:57] Speaker A: That's awesome. Thanks a lot, you guys, for joining. What's going on? Appreciate you guys on Tick tock and Jesse Ocho on Facebook. Thanks a lot, man. Appreciate, brother. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's awesome, man. Writing. Talking about writing music. Yeah. So what's the process? Like, whenever you're writing with the. The band, because you're. You write for yourself, right? And then do they bring you the song and like, hey, put vocals to this or do you all write it together or. How does that work? [00:31:27] Speaker B: Most times, except for, I guess, this last. This last one or two songs that we're still finishing up in the studio, we still got to master a few songs that are from the EP, the new ep. All of the songs prior, we've almost always had Eddie write riffs and we kind of just build off of that. We take that to studio. We do pre production or we demo at home at our jam spot, add, you know, drums and bass with that. They. [00:32:07] Speaker A: They. [00:32:07] Speaker B: They jam. We figure something out. We try to get a full, full song that gets thrown to me if I'm not present. A lot of times we're back and forth. The guys are based in Robstown, so sometimes I can't make it over. So we'll a lot of times email back and forth. Eddie and I. [00:32:23] Speaker A: Okay. [00:32:23] Speaker B: That's how a lot of it's been up to this point. And we're trying to do things differently now to where we're all in the same room and just throwing out whatever is on the spot to see what now sticks, you know? But, yeah, a lot of it's been. Starts with Eddie, and then the guys jump in. They all put the music together. They get ideas or rough, rough demos. They get sent to me so I can start getting ideas for vocals. A lot of the times, the. The melodies and patterns come out first sometimes I have already lyrical content that I wanna. That I want just for that piece. [00:33:05] Speaker A: Mmm. [00:33:05] Speaker B: And I work around that. That idea, and then I put them, the patterns to whatever words that I have in mind for that. So it's. Yeah. [00:33:15] Speaker A: Define the stuff. Is it in the same key? [00:33:17] Speaker B: Most of the stuff y'all write a lot of it? Yes. Yeah. We've got, I think, the entire dead to life, I think. Except for the track Texas sky. That one's different tuning, but all of the others are the same. And then the new stuff. Now I think we've. I think now we're in a different tuning again. Yeah, but, I mean, it works. [00:33:45] Speaker A: Do you have to adjust much, going from one tone to the other? [00:33:48] Speaker B: No, no, no. It's been pretty consistent. Like, as far as vocals go. If anything, I've gotten less. Less harsh. Less. You know, when you're young, you're just, like, going all out and, like, less. [00:34:03] Speaker A: Harsh on your vocal cord. [00:34:04] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's one of those things where, like, you start off, you see with, like, a lot of bands do it like. Like, say, like, avenged sevenfold or somebody like that. We're like, m shadows was like, you hear the first record or two and you're like, holy shit. He's screaming his lungs out. Same with, like, slipknot. Right. And then you see, like, a shift to where it's, like, more controlled vocally. Right. And so I think that's where I'm getting to now. [00:34:29] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:34:30] Speaker B: To where, like, I know when to turn it on and off or use it without, like, overdoing it and messing myself up. [00:34:37] Speaker A: You know? [00:34:37] Speaker B: That's one thing I. I don't ever want to happen, is to, like, to lose, because, like, then what am I good for, you know? [00:34:43] Speaker A: Yeah. There was a. I saw a tick tock video. The singer for Mud vein was. He was like, this is what my voice sounds like before the show. Right? [00:34:51] Speaker B: Have you seen that one, Chad? Yeah. [00:34:53] Speaker A: With his. His vocal coach. His vocal coach comes out with him. [00:34:57] Speaker B: What's her name? Cross. Right. I think it's a. I don't know. That's her name. Melissa Cross. [00:35:01] Speaker A: Apparently, she teaches a lot of the dudes, you know? [00:35:04] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't. I don't know. She's kind of creepy to me. She's got a look in her eye. I'm like, man, something's up with this chick. She's teaching everybody those. Those fucking badass vocals. So I'm like, that's. That's pretty cool. [00:35:16] Speaker A: That's funny, man. Christina Reyna on Facebook. Appreciate you. ZK all day. [00:35:22] Speaker B: Love y'all. [00:35:22] Speaker A: Barbara Ramos. Appreciate y'all for commenting. That's awesome. Uh, Dino Kernows. Yeah. Yeah, man. Whoa. That's good stuff there, buddy. Let's see. Upcoming Ep. What else we got here? Future aspirations and goals. Live performance and touring. So you said you're not much into the South Texas scene. I mean, what's it like for the. I guess being in South Texas, a middle band in south Texas. What's the scene like? Or is it. I mean, what's it been like for y'all? [00:35:53] Speaker B: So we. We aren't as plugged in as we would like to be, and that's because we've, for the most part, had to just play here in town. But we have, like I was saying earlier, we've connected with a lot of bands that I think eventually it's going to pay off in the long run when we finally do, like, say, maybe even later this year when we finally want to get out of here and go San Antonio or Dallas. Yeah. So. And we've played, I don't know, the number of shows we've played. We need to count them one day. We need to get, like, jesse, we need to get, like, Eddie and everybody on that in a count number of shows, even if we didn't, like, get on stage and actually play. But we were on a fucking bill. Right. But, no, we have played mostly here at, like, riches House of rock. We've played a couple of times at Brewster street ice house now downtown. Those are great gigs, by the way. And our most recent one, that was in February, early February, we played with shattered sun. They had a reunion show, and, man, 800 something people. Almost 900. [00:37:05] Speaker A: Wow. That must have 900 heads. [00:37:06] Speaker B: And it was fucking wow. [00:37:08] Speaker A: Wow. That was fun, man. That's awesome. [00:37:11] Speaker B: It was great, man. I remember every second of it. We had played before during COVID at brewsters with shattered son and a couple other bands. And, um, that was 2020. Like, I think after the summer, it was like Halloween, I think. Yeah. And only. Only, uh, tables, right? You had to buy, like, six or whatever tickets altogether. So everybody seated. It was not the kind of show that we normally play, so. So it was just, like, surreal for us to do that. We were like, we did it. The energy was way different, and, whoa. You know? And I remember leaving that show, and I'm like, man, that just didn't hit the spot like the way I thought it would, you know? Like, it's been a dream for us to get on stage, like, at Brewster's. We want to do concrete street. We want to do the bang center. Man, that didn't work. Did that really just happen? Because that wasn't. That didn't seem like a great show for us. [00:38:06] Speaker A: Yes. I'm thinking about the AV Quintania controversy. [00:38:08] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:38:09] Speaker A: What do you think about that? [00:38:10] Speaker B: Oh, man, that's. Bro, I don't know. He can't. He apologized, right? He said, um, yeah, something about, like, not taking his meds. Something just, like my mouth or something. I think he's just, like, entitled. Like, you're not gonna. You're not gonna stand up for me. But, no, that's definitely. I think it's just ego. Yeah. I don't know, man. If it was meds, then. Amen. Shit. [00:38:35] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:38:35] Speaker B: Don't forget next time. [00:38:36] Speaker A: But, I mean, maybe there isn't exactly. Yeah, maybe like, you're saying, like, that show that you were at, it might. Maybe they were some similar that. Cuz what you said people were sitting at tables. [00:38:43] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:38:44] Speaker A: And you were playing. Wow. [00:38:45] Speaker B: Yeah, it was mostly seated. There was a little spot for, like, some people to get up and stand up front by the stage, but it wasn't the same, man. But this last one, like I said, in February, it was, yeah, 800 something heads almost. I want to say, like, 860 or something like that. And, man, I enjoyed every second of it, man. I remember being on stage and just, like, you know, little breaks in between my vocal parts and, like, just soaking it all in, man. Just staring at every single person that was there. Like, this is what it should have been. Like, the last one, you know? And in my head, I'm like, we're gonna do this again, and I want it to be even bigger and better next time, you know? Yeah, that's. That's where our heads are at. Yeah. [00:39:24] Speaker A: Hell yeah, man. That's awesome, dude. I hope you guys get there, man. That's awesome. Mary Ali. Thanks. Appreciate you. JD, Avieta. He says he was there at Brewster's. Jesse Ochoa. [00:39:35] Speaker B: Yeah. All local bands. I think we had one from San Antonio. [00:39:39] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:39:40] Speaker B: Local bands. Yeah, yeah. [00:39:41] Speaker A: And shattered sun there from alice. Yeah. [00:39:43] Speaker B: Yep. [00:39:44] Speaker A: That's amazing. That's awesome, dude. So. So what's. Man, I wish your band meets were here. We could have made that conversation a little longer, but that's all right. Yeah. So, songwriting process, live performance. So what's the what? So what's in the future for you guys? Future aspirations in terms of musical achievements and maybe personal growth as artists. [00:40:05] Speaker B: So up next. Yeah, we want to really. We want to get this. This ep rolling. The release of this ep. Like we said, it's going to be probably sometime in the summer. First, we want to drop another single and then get that. Get everything else packaged and ready to go for the. For the full release. The next goal for us would be to start shopping around to see if there's any partnership that makes sense with any. Any labels. That's a. That's a big goal for us to see. To see what's out there. [00:40:37] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:40:37] Speaker B: And, um. Yeah. And then a full. Full album. [00:40:42] Speaker A: Nice, man. [00:40:43] Speaker B: We have enough material. [00:40:45] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:40:45] Speaker B: Just in the vault, just locked away. We're like, we can record. [00:40:49] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:40:50] Speaker B: Like, if we had, you know, somebody back and let's just throw us in the studio, dude. We'll come up with 2030 songs, you know, crazy easy. [00:40:58] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, that's what's up, dude. Yeah. So. And your first. So the first signing that you had, you actually sent them a demo or something like that, right? Okay. [00:41:07] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:41:08] Speaker A: And so they actually called you guys back on that one for sure. [00:41:10] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So. So what we used on that time, it was. We had dropped a single. It was our first exit life. That was back in 2017. We had been jamming for, like, we had been playing live shows for about two years by that point. We went and recorded that song, dropped it on YouTube. I want to say, when we shopped it around, we must have had it around ten k views or something like that. We sent them that link with the track together. They were all for it. They're like, okay, it's good stuff. We like where you're headed. So then we started working together with that partnership deal, um, for the. For the first ep. [00:41:54] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. How's it going, Francesca? Thank you for joining, man. Mama. Yeah, dude, that's awesome, bro. Uh, so any. Any final thoughts you want. You like to share? We're coming up on 40, 45 minutes here. What do you think? [00:42:07] Speaker B: Um, actually want to do a little bit of a. I guess a little shameless plug. Everybody. Anybody that's tuning in, like, from here, the corpus area, local area, um, people that haven't heard about us check us out on social media. We're on Facebook, we're on Instagram, we're on TikTok, YouTube. We throw everything on our Instagram and Facebook. And we're on all streaming platforms, too, man. Pandora, Spotify, Apple. We're on it all. We on our socials. You can find us at zombie King official. Yeah, that's. Yeah. For a lot of people that haven't hopped on board yet, you know, we want to get out there a little bit more, man. We feel like we've. We've got a good following here locally. There's still so many people that don't know. Yeah, I think a lot of it, too, has to do with our band name. I think people read that or see that, and they get kind of. They assume that it's a certain. Maybe a certain type of music or certain genre. I still get people asking me, like, you do that scream. Oh, like, every shit, right? I'm like, actually, if you gender music, like, you would see, like, it's really accessible to, like, damn near everybody. [00:43:20] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:43:21] Speaker B: You know, it's just a different killer name. [00:43:23] Speaker A: You know, it sounds kind of like, radio friendly too. Like it could be played on, like, rock radio. [00:43:27] Speaker B: Yeah, for sure. [00:43:28] Speaker A: For sure. [00:43:28] Speaker B: Yeah. Shout out to Monty Montana. Oh, yeah, he played us a lot back in the day, man. He was still on C 101. Rex. He's not there anymore. I think he's on classic, on 104. [00:43:38] Speaker A: Okay. [00:43:38] Speaker B: Okay, so yeah, him, Rios, Rex, hitman, they've all helped us out a lot. [00:43:43] Speaker A: That's awesome. [00:43:43] Speaker B: So they're all. Yeah, they were at. The. Most of them were at the last show too, at that. [00:43:50] Speaker A: Name, anyway. [00:43:51] Speaker B: Oh, man, that would be a story for Eddie to tell you. [00:43:54] Speaker A: Okay. [00:43:55] Speaker B: He came up with the name. It was already a thing when I. When I had joined. Like, it was kind of already there. [00:44:00] Speaker A: Yeah. So, yeah, even like, y'all's designs are pretty sweet too, man. Like, on the albums or whatever. Oh, yeah, when y'all do it or y'all. [00:44:07] Speaker B: No. So this last. So the most recent for reveling, we shopped around and I found a guy, one of my good friends, DJ here in town, Ray Marauder. He put me in touch with his homies back in Seattle, where he used to do a lot of drumming, bass. One of them happened to be an artist too. I put me in touch with him, Seth Grimm. We told him what we were kind of looking for and he made that happen. Yeah. As for, like, the band name, like the font, if you see the logo and everything, the logo and the font, that was a cousin's. One of Eddie's cousins who. I want to say he's. I know he's locked up, but I think, like, in San Antonio area. Not sure I might be wrong about that, but. Yeah. [00:44:49] Speaker A: Mexican. [00:44:53] Speaker B: Yeah. So no, his. As soon as his cousin, like, cuz Eddie's parents were in touch with him, telling. They're starting to play live shows, this and that. He was like, bro, he sent. He sent him in, like, those drawings of just the name. Yeah, we kept that ever since. So that's our. That's our band. That's our band logo. And then the. That Z. The Z K logo. Yeah, he drew that on a piece of art. You'll see it on our first band. For all the ogs that have the first shirt that we put out. Yeah, it's a. It's a king with the crown and a scepter. Oh, and on the scepter has that logo. I. I was like, we gotta use that, man. [00:45:29] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:45:30] Speaker B: Cut it out, sent it off, and they made. They made a logo for us and. Yeah, so that's where all that came from. A lot of it is done in house, man. Just like we've. A lot of our music's in house with Robert Beltran and then the music videos. [00:45:47] Speaker A: Yeah. So almost. [00:45:48] Speaker B: Almost every video that we've done has been us, with the exception of, I want to say, the. The very first one, exit life. We worked with Casey Coker. He used to be here in town. I think he's in Austin, based in Austin now. But, um, he had done work for shattered sun and a few other metal bands here in town, and he did that first one for us. And then there is dead at the scene from dead to life Ep. Jake Gonzalez, Renee Guerrero. They did. They worked on that video with us. They're still in town doing things. And these last two that we put out there, the last one that we put out, that was all us. Shout out to Epps Ellington, Jesse Ochoa, who's on right now. And then we're. We're working on the next release, which is the title track, reveling. We're doing the finishing touches on that video as well. Yeah, we've got just a few little things to add to it. And that's. That's all us right there, too, which has taken us a lot longer. Yeah, that's really why it takes us a bit longer to. To roll out these releases and to get everything going because we're doing it ourselves, man. And it's. It's a grind. [00:47:02] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, that's tough, man. So remind us again, so it's coming out June, so. [00:47:09] Speaker B: Yeah, so the next drop, the reveling title track off of the ep is going to drop, I want to say late May, early June with a music video as well. So that's. Yeah, for anybody that's been following us, that's. That's the update. There it is. [00:47:26] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:47:26] Speaker B: You're going to hear it. You're going to see it soon. Real soon. [00:47:29] Speaker A: Yeah. Appreciate you guys. All right, man. Any message, words, encouragement for aspiring vocalists or musicians in the heavy metal scene? [00:47:37] Speaker B: Ah, man, I don't want to get all, like, too long and sappy about it, but I would say stop paying attention to whatever everyone else is doing. You can stay aware of the scene, stay and be aware of, like, every other band here locally, but pay attention to the people that paved the way for you personally. Like, as far as your influences go, whatever genres that may be look to those guys, that's. That's where you want to be. That's your goal. So whether it's emulating or actually, like, putting in the work yourself, you know, perfecting your craft, block out a lot of the bullshit to. Man. We were saying earlier about the scenes, like, haters being everywhere, it's. It's never gonna stop. That's just how it is. I think it stopped for a little bit during COVID I saw everybody come out and be very, like, gracious during that time. [00:48:35] Speaker A: Wow. [00:48:36] Speaker B: Because we weren't playing anywhere. We weren't doing anything. We're all sitting at home, like, man, we miss. We miss being out there on the shows and throwing down in the pit and blah, blah, blah. It was beautiful for a little, you know, for what, half a year or whatever, but now it's like, back to the same old shit. Like, everybody's hating on each other. This guy sounds like whatever. Cooking monster shit. This guy can't sing. That guy can't play. Whatever. If I was there, I would do this and this instead, but block all that shit out or use it. Use it to spark your fire and. Yeah, yeah. Tunnel vision helps, man. That's. It's helped me. Like, I'm Corpus Christi born and raised. [00:49:14] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:49:14] Speaker B: And I guess, yeah, I'm a part of the scene here, but I stay away for enough time. I stay away enough to help myself grow, you know, outside of it. And when I come back and play shows or whatever in the scene, that's. That's what the finished product is, man. And I. It helps to block those things out or just not even. I mean, we're well aware of, like, people who've talked shit, you know? And I I still remember all of it, you know? [00:49:46] Speaker A: Mm hmm. [00:49:46] Speaker B: It is what it is. Some of them are homies now. Some of them are, like, really cool with us now, you know? Yeah, shit. Shit gets old. It's all in the past or whatever, but, yeah, no, I would say do the same, man. That's what I did. That's what got me here. A lot of it was. It was me being oblivious to a lot of that noise. Yeah. Just focusing on what I can control. What can I control? What can I do? I can learn how to sing better. [00:50:11] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:50:12] Speaker B: How to scream. I can learn how to project. I can learn how to write. I can learn how to, you know, come up with ideas, you know? That was all it. [00:50:20] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. Stay focused on. On the goal. Zombie King in the house by Belinda Rios. Well, man, yeah. Appreciate you guys everybody for joining. Thanks for coming on. The show was a good show. I hope everything works out for you, man. Anything else? So we find you guys. You want to share your, I guess, your handles or your tags or whatever where we can. [00:50:39] Speaker B: Yeah. So. So most of them you'll find like, Instagram, Facebook, YouTube, zombie king official. And for everybody just like, searching in the search bar or whatever, it's a zombie king. One word. You know, a lot of people tend to miss. Mess that up, too. [00:50:54] Speaker A: Yeah, I put swap with zombie, and then I'll capitalize the k instead. Putting. [00:50:57] Speaker B: There you go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's pretty much. Yeah. You know, so. Man, mega death ain't no, like, Mega. I gotta tell people, man. There's so many people that still get it wrong, man. But. Yeah, no, that's it. You'll find us on there. YouTube, Spotify, Pandora, Apple, itunes, all of that. We're on all of it. [00:51:14] Speaker A: Yeah. Right on, man. Well, appreciate you coming on, man. If nothing else. Thanks for coming on. [00:51:18] Speaker B: Thank you, brother. [00:51:19] Speaker A: Stay tuned, you guys, for the next few episodes. Corporate, serious, originals, podcast, and yeah, thanks. A shout out to Maya back there, the producer. Make making this all look nice for us. And you can shop corpse christyoriginals.com to get some merch for to help support the show. Appreciate you guys. Have a good one.